Fansub Review: [DameDesuYo] Noragami (Episode 02)

B-Tier, Fansub Review — By on January 17, 2014 5:42 pm

This post was written by Dark_Sage. He is Dark_Sage.

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tl;dr: FFF’s is still better.

Table of Contents

Release Information

Visual Quality

Script Quality

Results

 

Release Information

Episode details.

Release format: MKV (388 MB, 10-bit)

Japanesiness: Honorifics. “Ayakashi” used. There is also a second track included with localized dialogue.

English style: American English.

Encoding details: http://pastebin.com/MDZPN5wW

Speed: Quick (<48 hours)

Translation style: Funirip.

 

External links.

Group website: http://damedesuyo.us/

IRC channel: #[email protected]

 

 

Visual Review

Karaoke.

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Opening.  How do you miss the color themes? There’s like one dominant color in each scene, alongside the red that you see in the credits. You should be matching those, not just relying on what you saw in the first frame of the OP. Come on.

Rating: Okay.

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Insert rap was not subbed.

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Ending. Having the English script without a border so as to match the snow was a good choice. The karaoke effect was rather solid too, but all in all it was a rather standard kara.

Rating: Okay+.

 

 

Typesetting.

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Ah, there we go. Effect matching. Well, to a certain degree. They only matched two of the three colors, after all. But we’ll call it good enough.

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Typesets all the way down.

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As BDH and Nyangoro pointed out in the last review, these spell out Noragami. Woulda been nice to have these typeset as well.

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I like how they mimicked the original cut effect here.

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Why was this skipped? I hope it isn’t because you couldn’t figure out what the translation was.

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I get that the kanji’s backwards, but was it really necessary to hide your backwards text underneath the subs?

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Not sure what makes them decide when to use the sign.

 

 

 

 

Script Review

Karaoke.

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Try “to your shivering body.”

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What is this supposed to say? Cuz if the answer is “something that makes sense”, you didn’t quite hit the mark.

 

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Unlike FFF’s cohesive song TL, DDY’s jumps all over the place. These lines are all supposed to be linked somehow.

No matter what happens, I will always call out
your name
Your heart is jagged and twisted
Those who waver hurt everything
You glare at the whole world
So I will say that I am here
Someone laughed
And so we’re drawn up to that boundary line
If that happens, I’ll pull your hand
and take you with me
If you can’t say it, hold on to my hand tightly and don’t let go
Now you are alone no more
I want you to know that

This is messier than a cannibal’s first date.

 

 

Main Script.

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I went over this in FFF’s review. Ultimately, I don’t have a silver bullet for this line, but it can at least become something mediocre if you try.

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“next time” as in the next fainting stunt she pulls, or “next time” as in the next run they make to a clothing store? I’m not really sure what you’re trying to say here.

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Yuck. The line’s supposed to be cutesy-wutsey not ugly-wugly.

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This is supposed to be stupid-fun dialogue. Give your mind a little exercise. FFF had “A flipping, flapping bird!” if you need an example to work off of.

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Uhh, no. This scene is supposed to show why she gets it into her head to look around for any old spirit thing she could find. If she thought he said “Yeah.” to her “Are they people?” question, she’d be looking for humanlike spirits or something, not randoms.

Write it as something like “No, they’re spirits.”They’re spirits, actually.

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What is this supposed to fucking mean?

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I don’t see why you didn’t go with “deadbeat” or the like. Fansubbers of all people should know what people call them.

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The two last lines are supposed to be funny. You can tell by the anime faces. So why the fuck is the script so fucking terrible here?

An easy fix would be “Don’t try so hard!” -> “You really shouldn’t have!” {Non-native speakers, this is in the sense of sarcasm.}

“Try harder with that!” -> “You really shouldn’t have!” {And then here he actually means what he says, playing off the previous line.}

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I like my italics as much as I like my plastic anime girls, but why’d you throw them on “ain’t” here?

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No. If the tail is cut off, she’ll die. A nick won’t kill her, or Yato wouldn’t have pulled on it like he did earlier in the episode.

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What happened to the flappy-fuzzy one?

 

 

 

Results

Watchability: Watchable.

Visual grade: B

Script grade: C+

Overall grade: B-

Though the script as a whole is generally similar to FFF’s (both used the Funimation TL as their base), the differences are pronounced enough that I’d recommend going with FFF over DDY for Noragami.

Up next for Noragami: Sekinin and Hatsuyuki. But they’ll be getting reviewed for episode 3 or later since I’m not watching Noragami 02 four times in a fucking row.

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23 Comments

Ash says:

I wish Funi would stop simulcasting. They usually only do a couple of shows, but they put in the same amount of effort with their simul subs as their directors do when they have to cast a VA to voice a teenage boy.

Dark_Sage says:

A few days ago they decided to make their simulcasts limited to Funimation premium members. Just wait for that to flop and you’ll see them shrink away from the business.

The funny thing is they’re really, really, really proud of their simulcast scripts. When Soup and I go to cons, we often visit panels the main Funi rep is at and she never misses an opportunity to mention how great their TLs are and how shit all fansubbers are. It’s rather entertaining.

temp_late says:

Sometimes the FUNi simulcast scripts are good, but I don’t know what kind of company could be so proud about them as a whole. Maybe the TLs are good (and this is the side the rep’s seen, based on credentials or ability or whatnot), but they frequently aren’t trying or are very pressured on time? Or the rep is just deluded.

Ash says:

I wonder how she’d respond if someone with a laptop showed her episode 1 of Nourin.

It’s really stupid that they’re making people pay just to watch a simulcast when CR has them for free, albeit in lower resolutions. Maybe Funi’s bottom line is hurting because their re-re-re-release of DBZ on blu-ray isn’t selling as well, or something.

Solaristics says:

“How shit fansubbers are.” This is a joke, right, Dark_Sage? It has to be. FUNimations script styling and the effort they put into their scripts is a joke.

Fyurie says:

Funimation is just that conceited, man. :P

hunta says:

Next time you do that, can you please ask the funi rep why the fuck is the no-rin script in engrish?

temp_late says:

Sometimes the FUNi simulcast scripts are good, but I don’t know what kind of company could be so proud about them as a whole. Maybe the TLs are good (and this is the side the rep’s seen, based on credentials or ability or whatnot), but they frequently aren’t trying or are very pressured on time? Or the rep is just deluded.

temp_late says:

originally didn’t correctly reply (to nest comment properly)… delete these two, thx

begna112 says:

mfw fonts collector doesn’t pick up the regular-font but only the semibold. =3= http://d.pr/i/R7x7 http://d.pr/i/pEgn

begna112 says:

>Write it as something like “No, they’re spirits.”

Actually I think this leads to her confusion. He thinks of the spirits as people and so doesn’t elaborate further to tell her what kind of spirit. “No, they’re spirits.” would only have worked if she had said something like “They’re humans?” or “They’re people like us?” Something that excludes spirits.

Dark_Sage says:

He’s pretty adamant about the Far/Near Side split, so I wouldn’t say he views spirits as humans.

begna112 says:

“people” not “humans.” Yukine is clearly a person but not human -> http://d.pr/i/GCnm People is vague in this case leading to the confusion.

Dark_Sage says:

I don’t differentiate between the two, and am actually having a really difficult time understanding your point. However, this may simply be a failing on my part.

Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Nyangoro says:

I don’t really think using people or human makes much difference in this scenario.

Rather, I think the real issue here is that he gives either a yes or no answer, because that creates a problem.

“Divine Instruments are people?”

If he answers “Yes, they’re spirits,” then she would assume that they look like… well, people. So that doesn’t work.

If he answers “No, they’re spirits,” then that creates a problem when we see Yukine who, very clearly, looks like a person.

I’d say it would be better to play it up as a correction rather than a direct confirmation or negation.

I would have to hear the dialogue again, but there may be a nuance in the words used that implies a living being. Regardless, having him answer yes or no to that question doesn’t really gel well.

I’d change the response to something like:

“They’re spirits, actually.”

Dark_Sage says:

I dig it. Review updated.

Nyangoro says:

Just as a little addendum, if you must use yes or no, I think no works better.

After all, when they first see Yukine, he appears as a tiny little fluff ball. So, at the very least, he doesn’t start out looking human.

myxpytls says:

I like Hatsuyukis OP and ED better than DDY and FFF so i copy the OP and ED of Hatsuyuki but used FFF for the main ep LOL

aVF says:

lol, so dumb

myxpytls says:

whats so dumb about that? enlighten me.

Alto says:

-> “next time” as in the next fainting stunt she pulls, or “next time” as in the next run they make to a clothing store? I’m not really sure what you’re trying to say here

Wanted to mention this in your sub review of FFF’s version, they actually mean the next time Hiyori faints/falls asleep

Dark_Sage says:

Makes sense.

Kiraly says:

Just catching up on finished anime, these reviews really seem a lot more useful once the season is over.

That said,
> “Ayakashi” used.
Watching.

I downloaded FFF initially, but I couldn’t stand their ridiculous over-localisations in a show so steeped in Japanese folklore.

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