Translation Review: [Commie] Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou – 01

A-Tier, Fansub Review, Translation Review — By on May 11, 2014 9:02 pm

This post was written by kokujin-kun. He is not Dark_Sage.


This release was Commie tested, Nyaa approved.

Table of Contents

Release Information

Translation

Other Observations

Final Grade

Release Information

Episode details.

Release format: MKV (556MB, 10-bit)

Translation: Original Translation

Wap Level: None

English style: American English.

Speed: Quick (<48 hours)

 

External links.

Group website: http://commiesubs.com/

IRC channel: #[email protected]

 

Translation

Karaoke.

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OP. They translated this forgettable anisong expertly and to the point.

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ED. This line and the next needs to be changed. Chotto iwayuru ookina osewa should be “I should really be minding my own business.”  And kosei ni keirei is “But I salute your eccentricities.”

Main Script.

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I prefer “library aide.”

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Here’s one thing they should have typesetted, since it’s supposed to be a bit of foreshadowing. Though I would have the title of the book as The Right Way to Regret instead of The Right Way to Repent because, you know, the main character will later regret having to live there.

 

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I wish they made a better joke about phimosis, maybe something that included “that acorn shell you call a foreskin.”

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Hokay, here’s the original line: “Konjac jelly is something you eat, okay? So is potato starch.” Konjac and potato starch are the two main ingredients guys use to make homemade onaholes.

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Here’s another sex reference, since oyakodon can also mean “parent-child threeway.”

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Also, “burdock root” can also refer to  the penis, but I think these last two lines will easily get lost in translation.

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Love how they turned a rarely seen sarcastic line (“Thanks for that late warning”) even more sarcastic.

 

Other Observations

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Commie really skimped on the typesetting in this show. I could show you more, but the server could never handle all the screenshots. The last one especially hurt since that’s the sound effect of someone fondling something.

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Probably can’t pick a better set of screens to represent the Commie ethos: long on memes, short on QC.

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Maybe they should have waited a few more days and made an encode off the superior Crunchyroll video, eh?

Final Grade: A-

They were dropped a grade because they slipped on that onaholes joke and missed some signs that I felt needed to be typeset, but overall this is an honest-to-goodness highly watchable script from Commie, haters be damned.

 

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118 Comments

Xythar says:

>implying that meme wasn’t completely warranted
Though yeah, mini-ezo was right in that a hashtag would’ve fit even better. Might be a bit harder to squeeze into the sign, though.

I think the konjac line was originally interpreted as being a bad homophone joke on 婚約 and 菎蒻, but that makes sense too.

CR’s video is usually worse for Sentai shows because of the banding, but I’ll give it a compare later.

Xythar says:

So I did some comparisons between the TBS cap and CR’s video:
http://compare.bakashots.me/compare.php?setId=625&comparisonId=4609

They’re about the same for most scenes except that CR’s banding is uglier. Neither handles high-motion scenes very well but CR also tends to smudge out details like crazy when that happens, while TBS artifacts up but otherwise stays relatively sharp. The one part where TBS really does shit the bed is the scene you posted above, where the station probably applied that ghosting effect to the video to prevent people from going into seizures.

Overall, though, while the banding isn’t as bad as I expected from looking at other Sentai shows, it isn’t worth waiting for.

(Screenshots were taken from the HS 1080p rip and the TBS transport stream with IVTC and cropping applied. Both were resized down to 1280×720 and neither were filtered in any way besides the IVTC, which was kinda necessary to view both on even ground.)

kokujin-kun says:

Not that I fault you for using memes, though you gotta admit that a relatively obscure meme will simply seem out of place in a script made by a group that typically localizes its scripts. But I like to weeb up my scripts, so stones and glass houses.

As for Crunchy’s video, I just said that in response to the criticisms we received for using TV encodes for Imocho instead of CR videos. I still can’t believe people care about the encode of a show that’s censored to shit.

yy says:

SUN is exceptionally awful though. One of, if not the worst, channel out there. Especially since you guys released years after CR was out anyway.

Renderer says:

No, Say what you really mean don’t ride his dick. The memes YOU use ARE SHIT and make no fucking sense translate the fucking script to what they are actually saying COMMIE. The purpose of translating is so we can understand what the fuck they are saying after all. WTF does we weirdo now mean? WTF is that Huh? Xythar?

mini-ezo says:

I really, really hope you’re just trolling.

addityo says:

cool monogatari Aniki..

Xythar says:

You wanna know what they’re saying? They’re saying memes. If you don’t like it, consider watching a different show.

fnord says:

We don’t give a rat’s ass what you want.

Fuwaa says:

Typical fansubber’s true feelings.

ar says:

You seem to misunderstand what fansubber means. We are fans who sub, we don’t sub for fans.

Renderer says:

Incorrect YOU don’t sub for fans don’t lump the other good hearted fansubbers like “Underwater” and “Dark_Sage” in with a cock loving fagget like yourself.

Xythar says:

The really funny part here is that Underwater is a group (not a person) containing just about all the people you’ve been busy cussing out for the last few days. It really is just about brand names to you kids.

Renderer says:

>The really funny part here is that Underwater is a group (not a person)

NO SHIT. How long did it take you to figure that out Xythar? I’d expect no less from the creator of Eotens to be this socially challenged. BTW you dodged my earlier question so I will ask it again.

WTF DOES WE WEIRDO NOW MEAN? HUH?

Xythar says:

Okay, I get it, you’re trolling. Good job, you had me going for a while.

Fyurie says:

God, Xythar, stop translating Japanese memes into English memes, honestly!

…seriously though, if you don’t like the memes, this isn’t your show, even CR pulled the same trick, because they’re straight-up in the Japanese, too.

I know I at least trust that when Xythar puts those sorts of things into a script, there’s a reason for it.

Xythar says:

Honestly, the only thing I do is not edit them out of the translated script. I leave everything else up to the translator.

Googol says:

It means you’re a weirdo and you should stay out of things you clearly aren’t suited for.

Occar says:

Obvious Commie fan reverse-trolling to make Commie look more sympathetic.

More subtle than the usual Commie IDF who usually take things head-on, but still obvious.

addityo says:

>Dark_Sage
>Fansubs

Go home bro, you’re drunk

Fuwaa says:

It’s because I understand that I said what I said.

No More says:

I like when Commie actually “subbing” an animes.
Not “editing” CR scripts…

Dexior92 says:

Me too.

dutchah says:

“Here’s another sex reference, since oyakodon can also mean “parent-child threeway.””

I know languages have words for stuff we don’t all the time but this has to be one of the more ridiculous ones.

FalseDawn says:

What I find shocking is that English hasn’t come up with a suitable equivalent yet >:

ar says:

There’s plenty of pr0n about it but even they use titles like “Fuck My Mom and Me”. We went through this for an episode of Seitokai Yakuindomo* and couldn’t come up with anything specific for it either. It appeared on an end card as a joke.

Xythar says:

I thought our “How about a family combo?” worked pretty well though.

Alternatives would be “Incest: it’s something the whole family can enjoy!”

ar says:

God bless that mind of yours~

dutchah says:

“Incest: fun for the whole family!”

FalseDawn says:

I could see a lot of fast food slogans being perverted for the sake of porn. “Tried our new family bucket?” >.>

Chaoss says:

as expected of herkz

Renderer says:

@Fyurie

As Commie’s personal dick rider you do a really good job. Whenever a evil leecher says what everybody else is thinking you swoop in and save the day.

IS IT A BIRD? IS IT A PLANE? NO IT’S COMMIE’S DICK RIDER!!

Fyurie says:

You’re way too new for this, man. I’ve had plenty of shares of calling Commie shit for things it has done in the past.

Xythar does good work, I trust his decision(s) with this show.

If your only response to me is to call me their personal dick-rider, and not present me with something that can be considered a tangible counter-argument, then give up.

Fyurie says:

I don’t think he’s a troll anymore, koku, he’s just plain dumb. :<

Fyurie says:

It kills time too, so that’s something.

Occar says:

S-stupid troll. I-it’s not like I care what you’re saying or anything, baka!

Renderer says:

Excuses, excuses keep feeding me pleb. The funny thing is, you think you look smart. TOPKEK

Fyurie says:

Ah, thanks, you confirmed that you are indeed trolling and not trying to look like you know what you’re saying. I can finish now.

Enjoy your next feeder! :>

Renderer says:

I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, I went too far. NOBODY deserves to be called Commie’s personal dick rider not even Hitler.

Fyurie says:

You were almost fun man. I think the creativity needs upping to increase your troll power level though.

Food for thought!

Renderer says:

I can actually do a lot better but a Commie review isn’t worth my full power. That’s just a waste of spiral energy.

Fyurie says:

Point taken.

Nevreen says:

>HAHAHA I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE A RETARD AND WAS SO GOOD AT IT THAT YOU FELL FOR IT. DON’T YOU FEEL DUMB FOR THINKING I WAS ACTUALLY A RETARD?

I think everyone here is humbled by your ability to display such stupidity. topkek indeed.

Renderer says:

That’s basically what trolling is. It seems you’ve learned a new word today. I’m glad you’re happy.

If you want to learn more new words email me @ [email protected]

FalseDawn says:

No, that’s what rubbish trolls think trolling is. Good trolls actually make the thing they’re trolling look stupid :D

But as with everything on the internet, the lowest common denominator jumps on board and ruins it for the rest of us.

fnord says:

A good troll would make me write shit-long posts defending myself for no good reason, wasting a ton of my time.

You just make me shake my head in disbelief.

Justinnnnnn says:

Justinnnnnn says:

Awww WHAT! THAT WASN’T SUPPOSED TO SHOW THE FUCKIN VIDEO! There goes my troll attempt…

Justinnnnnn says:

IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT DS, Y U DO DIS 2 ME

Renderer says:

Say what you want fag but you yourself admitted that “I had you going for a while” so how dumb do you look falling for such a “stupid” troll attempt. That says much to your intelligence Xythar. As the creator of Eotens you impress me more and more everyday with your GREAT intelligence.

archdeco says:

>Xythar
>creator of Eotens

Good one, mate.

mints says:

Would you be so kind as to fuck off already?

Solaristics says:

Use some commas next time you construct an argument, kay?

csb says:

I’m starting to believe you have brain damage.

Anon says:

Starting?

csb says:

I was sincerely hoping (still do) that he’s just a bad and really pathetic troll. Sue me :(

Renderer says:

@Xythar you still didn’t answer my question what does that shitty meme mean that you approve of so much? It would be real funny if you guys are throwing SHIT in the script you don’t understand yourselves.

P.S. No google aloud. But you’ll probably still use it anyway.

Xythar says:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=we+now+meme

(don’t worry, I Googled silently)

Fuwaa says:

The funny thing is that the links that come up for me are either explain memes in general or ask wtf “we president now” means.

Personally, I still don’t really get it, and I still think it fits the show pretty well.

FalseDawn says:

Isn’t your usage of the meme a misusage then? I’ve seen it work for nouns and verbs, but adjectives? Seems a bit of a stretch.

Xythar says:

“Weirdo” is a noun, though?

No different from “we president now” and so on. It just describes what’s going on or what’s “in”, much like the Twitter なう.

Though as mini-ezo said, a hashtag probably would’ve been even better.

FalseDawn says:

My bad, misread it as “we weird now” :D

Yeah, I’m still not sold on it. I think president works because it’s more specific, like if you said “we hamster now” or “we stalker now” – weirdo is so generic that the sense is much harder to grasp, making it therefore much harder to accept the meme as it is.

Hashtag would definitely have been a better conversion to English, agreed.

Xythar says:

Nah, even what we had makes sense in context:

>Lots of old houses in this area.
{\i1}It’s calm and peaceful.
Oh, there’s a grade school.
{\i1}Doesn’t look like there are any weirdos around here, either.
(he sees Shiro suspiciously peering through a gap in the grade school’s fence)
{\i1}We weirdo now.

It’s not wrong per se, and I can’t imagine anyone with two brain cells to rub together not being able to determine what it means from context alone. It’s just not particularly evocative of Twitter in the way なう is.

Renderer says:

@ Xythar Stop messing with my IP you but hurt pleb before I call the cops.

sjoe says:

Took me a minute to figure out it probably meant ‘butthurt’ :|

Anyway, we bored now.

csb says:

(☞゚∀゚)☞

pondwhale says:

Do you have Asperger syndrome or something?

Fyurie says:

Nah, Aspies can actually hold a conversation (hi!). This guy’s just something else entirely.

Slippery Dan says:

There’s no way he’s in earnest, even as an earnest troll. He’s playing the role too hard and too persistently. He’s either:

1. A meta-troll, trying to offend people’s internet sensibilities by trolling so poorly.

2. A reverse troll trying to make Commie detractors look bad by association with him.

3. Trolling ironically because, hey, top lel.

4. Really, really desperate for human contact.

Renderer says:

Hey man whats up! I haven’t seen you in a couple of days, finally hopped off Commie’s hairy dick and decided to join us I see.

Fyurie says:

Yeah, I only have so much stamina.

They weren’t too impressed with my performance, giving up and getting off so soon. :(

Renderer says:

LOLOL

Hunta says:

Commie gets dq’d, drama in the comments.
Commie gets an A-, drama in the comments.

Fansubbing. Fansubbing never changes.

Xythar says:

What can I say? Morons love to pick fights whenever Commie’s name comes up.

Hunta says:

Did you just call yourself a moron there? Because I sure think you just did.

Xythar says:

Why, it almost sounds like you’re trying to pick a fight.

QED.

Hunta says:

Meh, Xythar picking fights on Crymore is about as common as Commie putting memes in their subs. I’m just pointing out your own hypocrisy.

Xythar says:

You did actually read the comments here before running your mouth, right?

Hunta says:

Meh, I got the formula down pat.

IF [commie/cartel review] – ORIF [mention of nyaa] -> THEN [Xythar in the comments] -> THEREFORE [shitstorm in a teacup].

Something like that. Put me on TV and call me a goddamn forecaster.

Xythar says:

Ah, so merely showing up counts as picking fights for you, regardless of what actually happens.

That’s fine though, if anything this particular comment thread only proves my point.

Hunta says:

Meh, what constitutes a fight? Because if this is a fight, then I am a potato.

Xythar says:

I said picking fights. You know, like showing up out of nowhere and pointlessly antagonizing people.

If this had been a review for some other group than Commie, it would have ended at my original replies to koku above.

Hunta says:

I’ll be over here, with my popcorn.

Justinnnnnn says:

Awesome, it’s Hunta vs Xythar round 2. ganbare hunta :)

Anon says:

Nice false dichotomy there pal. Got any more fallacies you want to throw out in a pathetic attempt to defend yourself?

Solaristics says:

You’re pretty terrible when it comes to arguments, aren’t you?

Hunta says:

And to be fair, the dramatrain seems to follow you around crymore, regardless of whether you’re trying to actually pick a fight or not. Juuuust saying.

Anon says:

What can I say? Commie staff love to pick fights whenever Commie’s name comes up.

Renderer says:

*What can I say? Xythar loves to bitch and moan whenever we refuse to ride Commie’s dick.

I think as a QC I fixed this line well.

Solaristics says:

You should get yourself checked out. You got some serious issues, bub.

Renderer says:

I KNOW RIGHT I’M FUCKING INSANE AREN’T I?!! WHEN I WAS 2 YEARS OLD I SHOVED BRUCE LEE’S HEAD UP FLOYD MAYWEATHER’S ASS. MWahahahaha

For more fun facts email me @XytharLovesCrackCommie&[email protected]

addityo says:

eww

Kristen says:

Don’t worry, they’ll always have Nyaatorrents to go back to and A+ their own releases. And of course, flag competing release as “remakes” even though it used a completely different dialogue translation, changed 95% of the typeset, and a different encode.

ar says:

Yeh no. Please try again Kristen.

Hairy says:

But why was that release marked as a re-encode?

Kristen says:

Because it competed with Commie. Only reason possible.

They say it’s because it used Commie’s typesetting, but had they actually downloaded it (which they didn’t, it was flagged before anyone had finished downloading it), it would become very obvious that only about 5-10% of the typesetting is the same. You don’t just suddenly have a script that is 600 lines longer per episode if you didn’t do anything to the typesetting.

Hairy says:

Even so, I’m pretty sure other BD groups use the typesetting found in TV releases, and they don’t get marked as red. As long as it’s an original encode, surely it shouldn’t be marked red.

Very strange…

I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised.

Kristen says:

Yeah. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if soon we were having all BDs not done by the original group flagged red – unless, of course, the nyaa buddy-buddy Thora does it. I mean, within a month this has escalated from “Tenshi’s encode/mux of Hanasaku Iroha Movie is a remux” to “If you use any part of a BD from a group and they release their own BD and they release before you, it’s a remux”.

The whole system is laughable. The only shame is that nyaa wants to take it out on Chihiro too when I’ve had no part in Chihiro in over a year.

Renderer says:

Lets not forget how Commie downvotes and spams the other groups in the fansubber section on MAL.

Xythar says:

That’s why they’re almost always rated lower than the rest, amirite

Kristen says:

No, you’re rated lower than the rest because the silent majority doesn’t like your subs.

Googol says:

No, the vast majority are weabos who imitate other weabos. Fanboys at best. Do they actually watch what they vote or downvote? Nope, in most cases they just go by the name of the group.

Commie isn’t constant in quality, but they are capable of releasing great scripts. Not to mention they’ve got some of the best typesetting in many of their releases.

Hairy says:

>Nope, in most cases they just go by the name of the group.

Actually, if you read the fansub comments on MAL, you’ll see that herkz gets quite a few mentions.

Googol says:

They do mention him sometimes, though that just adds up to personal resentment for the group. I’ve seen so many of those pointless comments on MAL.

Look at the comments they left on “Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou”, the very release that got an A- here. They are mostly negative comments.

Strangely enough, when some of those very people work for other groups like UTW, you don’t see the as much negativity.

It’s pure bias. It’s “cool” to hate on Commie these days.

Kristen says:

UTW works on a different set of standards. No memes, no trolling, honorifics, etc. That’s why UTW is generally approved, and Commie is usually disapproved on MAL, even though it’s the same people.

You think it’s funny to do your memes or whatever? Sure, go ahead and continue. But don’t try to say that Commie isn’t loved by the silent majority because of group name.

Googol says:

As I said, they aren’t constant in quality, but Commie is often getting bad feedbacks even when they do an actual good job overall. That’s pretty much clear.

Vivid does excellent releases, but it still gets negative comments by people who relate them to Commie. Why so? Well, you can find the answer yourself. I wouldn’t trust any one of them as far as their “reviews” go. They are simply biased negatively towards Commie.

shark0week0 says:

Is this the same “silent majority” that hates Commie?

sjoe says:

And here I thought fansubbing was something done out of one’s interest. Why even care if xyz site does not approve of your releases? Why do I see so much bitching around for something you’re doing of your own free will? :\
My bad if people are just trolling around for fun, but all the comments above don’t seem to convey that impression.

Xythar says:

It’s just one guy being retarded and everyone else yelling at him.

Not much to see, really.

sjoe says:

Well, if you say so… As an aspiring fansubber lurking about some of these sites for a while now, there are quite a few things that haven’t exactly left a good taste in my mouth.

Fuwaa says:

That sort of thing pops up in any scene. Don’t worry about it too much. I’m sure you have reasons for fansubbing aside from getting high download counts, right? Those reasons are still valid, and you’ll get feedback and viewers even if you aren’t Nyaa-recommended.

Just try to avoid working with the people who give you a bad feeling.

Renderer says:

I pitty guys like you who try to make things seems less interesting than they actually are with your pseudo rhetoric.

Eff you shaftstroker

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