Fansub Review: [Kaylith] Zankyou no Terror (Episode 04)

A-Tier, Fansub Review — By on August 11, 2014 9:13 pm

This post was written by Dark_Sage. He is Dark_Sage.


K-k-k-kawaii!

Table of Contents

Release Information

Visual Quality

Script Quality

Results

 

Release Information

Episode details.

Release format: MKV (565 MB, 10-bit), LQ MP4 (201 MB)

Japanesiness: Defaults to no honorifics, but there’s a second track with honorifics included.

English style: American English.

Encoding details: http://pastebin.com/TRKruX1k

Speed: Slow (>48 hours)

Translation style: Funi edit.

 

External links.

Group website: http://kaylith.co.uk/

IRC channel: #kaylith@irc.rizon.net

 

 

Visual Review

Karaoke.

Do be aware that since this is a webm, it’s not gonna look quite as good as the actual version. Should be good enough for the purposes of this post, though.

Opening. I can see what they were going for, but it didn’t feel like the color/font choice lent itself to every single scene of the OP.

Rating: Okay+.

 

Ending. Simple black and white. Best I can give it is an Okay+.

Rating: Okay+.

 

 

Typesetting.

Be warned, 50 images lie in wait inside the spoiler tags.

Spoiler:

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Above and beyond, absolutely. The typesetting stalled my AMD rig for a brief section, but when tested on my beastly Nvidia machine, it… also stalled. I’d wager it’ll stall out on most computers.

Regardless, the sheer effort put into the typesetting here more than outweighs a second’s stutter. Something may be wrong with the typesetters who worked on this release, but it’s the good kind of wrong.

 

 

 

Script Review

Main Script.

[Kaylith] Zankyou no Terror - 04 [720p][BEDCFB24].mkv_snapshot_04.14_[2014.08.11_18.59.57]

This line may not be wrong, but I do hope Kaylith got sponsored for it.

[Kaylith] Zankyou no Terror - 04 [720p][BEDCFB24].mkv_snapshot_05.03_[2014.08.11_19.01.50] [Kaylith] Zankyou no Terror - 04 [720p][BEDCFB24].mkv_snapshot_05.06_[2014.08.11_19.01.31] [Kaylith] Zankyou no Terror - 04 [720p][BEDCFB24].mkv_snapshot_05.08_[2014.08.11_19.01.59]

Most groups would use “which” over “whom” here, cuz even though it’s not “right”, it’s how a lot of people would say the line in real life. Don’t have much of a preference myself, but what little I do have errs on the side of grammar Nazi-ism.

[Kaylith] Zankyou no Terror - 04 [720p][BEDCFB24].mkv_snapshot_05.46_[2014.08.11_19.02.46]

Language varies from character to character and doesn’t break the pace of the script. It’s pretty easy to hear the guy’s accent, even in Japanese, so reflecting it in lines like this one — and blatantly — was a good choice.

[Kaylith] Zankyou no Terror - 04 [720p][BEDCFB24].mkv_snapshot_11.03_[2014.08.11_21.00.51]

Throughout the release, the dialogue itself felt very… mature. A screenshot or two doesn’t really get it across, but the writing definitely captured the tone of the show and added to the atmosphere.

[Kaylith] Zankyou no Terror - 04 [720p][BEDCFB24].mkv_snapshot_06.36_[2014.08.11_19.03.49]

Need an article there. “That’s the Metro PD for you.”

8/30 Update: While I’m confident my fix makes the line better/more accurate, I’m gonna consider this line just fine. Based on various pieces of evidence I was provided (some people linked me on IRC to decent examples where the article was dropped) AND based on some more real-life evidence I came across (saw a sign outside a convenience store that also dropped the article), this line gets a pass.

[Kaylith] Zankyou no Terror - 04 [720p][BEDCFB24].mkv_snapshot_08.57_[2014.08.11_19.16.36] [Kaylith] Zankyou no Terror - 04 [720p][BEDCFB24].mkv_snapshot_09.02_[2014.08.11_19.16.31] [Kaylith] Zankyou no Terror - 04 [720p][BEDCFB24].mkv_snapshot_09.06_[2014.08.11_19.16.20]

I get that Cape Erimo is a place, but where the fuck is Shiretoko Journey? A google search doesn’t even bring anything up. Considering Kaylith didn’t even put anything about this in their release post, I imagine anyone who actually cares about what they read in their subs will be confused too.

 

 

 

Results

Watchability: Faith in fansubbing redeemed-tier.

Visual grade: A+

Script grade: A+

Overall grade: A+

The sheer amount — and quality of — the typesetting in this release really puts Kaylith above anything else I’ve seen from groups on this show. Combine that with a quality script and nice karaoke and you’ve got a winner. It’s gonna be really, really hard for a group to beat Kaylith out on this show.

Do note that Kaylith is rather slow to release their eps (this particular release took them 8 days to get out), so if time’s an issue for ya, you might want to look elsewhere. But if you can wait, I doubt you’ll be displeased with what Kaylith has to offer. This was a truly commendable release.

 

8/30 Update:

Based on further review of the typesetting (and by that, I mean an in-depth look at the typesetting’s English), it absolutely fit the tone and content of each scene it was displayed in. Match that with only one part where I really disagree with Kaylith (which can be attributed to localization preferences), and you have yourself a release as close to perfect as it’s gonna get.

Well done, Kaylith. Well fucking done.

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48 Comments

PP says:

>Be warned, 50 images lie in wait inside the spoiler tags.

Fansubbing goes too far yet again, I bet they won’t buy me a new toaster to watch their releases, scrubs.

LotusGG says:

LQ is hardsubbed, good luck.

duplex says:

>I get that Cape Erimo is a place, but where the fuck is Shiretoko Journey?
They’re supposed to be song names. Shiretoko is a peninsula and national park in Hokkaido.

Dark_Sage says:

Everyone should have their own personal duplex. Thanks.

anon says:

>inb4 butthurt cartel groups’ staff bitch about D_S being bias.

Kaylith got blue on nyaa too, so the cartel can’t be THAT upset.

fnord says:

We’re so upset someone put out a decent release that we gave them blue.

anon says:

I’m talking about actual staff here though.
Not commie song TL.

:) says:

The guy editing it for Kaylith also works for Commie, so…

FalseDawn says:

I knew it! It’s an inside job!

Humanity says:

I do appreciate great typesetting.
I can’t remember the last time you gave such a glowing review either.

It’s been quite some time. I think this is the closest anyone’s gotten to an A+ since Gotwoot’s Mirai Nikki managed to do it.

Dark_Sage says:

It’s damn well on the edge. Really an excellent effort from all involved.

Edit: I’m gonna have to think about that Metro PD line. If it’s actually fine (sounds off to me), I’ll do a deep dive on the typesetting lines and see if we can’t have Crymore’s second A+ of the ever.

If it helps, I’m pretty sure the English in Gotwoot’s Mirai Nikki TS had some notable derps and next to no consistency.

Fyurie says:

Vouching for that inconsistency. QCing those diaries for BDs was suffering. ;_;

Fyurie says:

Uh, BDs*

D_S pls fix.

shcboomer says:

Ganbatte Fyurie-pon

Anon says:

The grade may be an A-, but as far as glowing reviews go, gg’s Magi is up there[/url].

Anon says:

Ah, it seems the URL tag doesn’t like that one. Here it is raw, I guess: http://www.crymore.net/2012/11/22/fansub-review-gg-magi-episode-07/

elenrod says:

>it’s the good kind of wrong

Made my toaster’s demise worth it. Thank you, Kaylith.

Solaristics says:

( ¬‿¬) Cartel group. Jk<3. Good work.

Fyurie says:

Solar pls go. :<

qwerty says:

Did you sacrifice Underwater to the Fansub Devil in exchange for this? It explains everything!

NexXKinn says:

can you take a screenshot of your CPU percent and RAM usage when dat “glorious typesetting” happen?
’cause i’m going to put it on 60fps mode…

Dark_Sage says:

Don’t have a screenshot for you, but doing some tests it looks like it doubled my CPU use but didn’t hit my RAM.

Koby says:

What’s the point in going to the extreme if it makes it unplayable by most watchers? I doubt the majority will have machines more powerful than that.

I haven’t tested the release myself but I’m on a FX-8150 with a Radeon HD-6670 and 8GB ram that I built myself 2 or 3 years ago when the FX-8150 was first released.

Jing says:

It’s not unplayable by any means. I have an integrated Intel card and only experience a second’s worth of stutter.

In this case, half-assing the signs in question would’ve been more jarring than a hiccup in the video. That said, I think there’ll be an effort to streamline it for the batch release.

Koby says:

As I said; I hadn’t tested myself. I was just going by what Dark_Sage stated: “The typesetting stalled my AMD rig for a brief section, but when tested on my beastly Nvidia machine, it… also stalled. I’d wager it’ll stall out on most computers.”

Jing says:

Yeah, naturally. I wasn’t rejecting your point or anything, just trying to help clarify.

Nevreen says:

PSA: The bottleneck to subtitle rendering is always going to be your CPU unless you’re messing with hardware acceleration. Comparing graphics cards is mostly meaningless.

TotallyDenpa says:

But I just got back from BestBuy where I got a new card.
Are you telling me this wont help me?

Darkseid says:

If your old graphics card was really bad then it will….but if you have got less than an i5 then no probably not much :P

Dark_Sage says:

I’m going to re-review a few pieces tonight based on valid points raised on IRC. Score may increase as a result.

Sky says:

>Score may increase as a result.

Wow.

Abunja says:

Let’s see how madVR + xy-Subfilter would fare.

LotusGG says:

FX-6100 crying at typesettings.
MADVR + XY-SUBFILTER.

Abunja says:

Yup, experienced the same. I’m running using Intel i5 @ 4GB RAM with GeFOrce GT 630.

Darkseid says:

seems fine with my i7 :P

Abunja says:

Better upgrade our toasters XD

triviper says:

For when the karaokes are not animated, I find the screenshots to be much more insightful. Plus there’s not much of a need to see the ‘karaoke’ as a video in that case?

When they are animated, maybe just show a section so that way you can retain video quality while keeping file size in check.

Anonman says:

I would love to read your reviews of manga “scanlations”. I think that would be an endless source of fun.

Shauneepeak says:

Nice to see Kaylith getting some high praise. I have been downloading their releases since they started with Sakura Trick they seem to really care about their subs and I think Zankyou proves it. Hopefully this group stays strong and manages to stick around for a good long while.

ToasterPC says:

Don’t get me wrong, Kaylith’s pretty beast and they’re doing a great job with the show, but I think perhaps these groups should consider PC specs when they’re typesetting this hard. (What comes to mind: their release of Tokyo ESP, which brutally grinds my MPC to a halt during the opening animation for the sake of some totally unnecessary animated typesetting.)

cheshyre says:

I want to mention that on the twitter feeds (which I believe is the laggiest part of the Terror release), I would have liked to avoid masking the entire screen, but there would simply have been no room to include the translation. If I had been able to do that, it probably would have run fine. Regardless, Fyurie found the source of the 1 second stutter, and we will be finding a workaround for the BDs. Though, if your computer lags at the title TS for ESP, then it probably won’t change much for your viewing experience. That typesetting is moderately light, and the TS for terror is far more intense than anything you will find in ESP.

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