Review_Queue (Summer 2013)

~Summer 2013 Edition~

 

Regular Fansub Reviews Left:

Spoiler:

[Commie] Gen’ei o Kakeru Taiyou
[Underwater] Gen’ei o Kakeru Taiyou

[Commie] Highschool DxD NEW
[FFF] Highschool DxD NEW
[Hatsuyuki] Highschool DxD NEW
[SubDESU] Highschool DxD NEW

[Doki] Kimi no Iru Machi
[Hadena] Kimi no Iru Machi
[KimiSubs] Kimi no Iru Machi

[HorribleSubs] Kiniro Mosaic
[IB] Kiniro Mosaic
[Mezashite] Kiniro Mosaic

[Commie] Love Lab
[FFF] Love Lab
[HorribleSubs] Love Lab

[Aidoru] Rozen Maiden (2013)
[EveSenshi] Rozen Maiden (2013)
[HorribleSubs] Rozen Maiden (2013)
[uyA] Rozen Maiden (2013)

 

Review Order (usually determined by the poll):

  1. [???] Love Lab
  2. [???] Love Lab
  3. [???] Love Lab

 

Translation Parties Left:

None.

 

Review Order (usually determined by the poll):

N/A

 

Out-of-Scope (releases that I will not review for whatever reason):

Spoiler:

[Commie] Free! – Minimal/non-existent script changes, trollsubs

[WhyNot] Free! – Minimal/non-existent script changes

[Commie] Gin no Saji – Minimal/non-existent script changes

[WhyNot] Gin no Saji – Minimal/non-existent script changes

[Tsuki] Gifuu Doudou!! Kanetsugu to Keiji – Minimal/non-existent script changes

[CTSS] Kitakubu Katsudou Kiroku – Minimal script changes, and in a bad way

[Chihiro] The World God Only Knows – Goddess Arc – Minimal/non-existent script changes

 

195 Comments

Danuchiha99 says:

When should we expect the Free! review?

Dark_Sage says:

Other than disqualification notices, I reserve first episodes for TL Parties, so you probably won’t be seeing any other than that Commie review (hopefully).

kokujin-kun may get in with translation reviews, though, because as far as I know he hasn’t placed any restrictions on himself.

Solaristics says:

You should ignore everything else and do Genei wo Kakeru Taiyo from Underwater (Somehow they’re alive) l0l.

Dark_Sage says:

Dark_Sage is a firm believer in democracy.

…until totalitarianism becomes more enjoyable. How kawaii is that shit?

AAA says:

Will you be reviewing Ro-Kyu-Bu! SS? The groups that are doing subbing it are Doremi, Doki and Asenshi.

Dark_Sage says:

You’ll get a TL Party for it, but no actual reviews unless I get really, really bored.

I despised the first season.

Solaristics says:

Second season’s no better. Too much service on little girls already.

Solaristics says:

You can add The World God Only Knows – Goddess Arc for Vivid and Anime-Koi

Monkey D. Fluffy says:

I’d like to see some review of Zen Sub’s Inu to Hasami.

First, because it’s an Indonesian fansub group doing English subs.
And second, because I always wished colon cancer upon D_S.

Dark_Sage says:

I went to their site and couldn’t understand a word. Didn’t waste the bandwidth on their release.

corocoro says:

Missing:
[Commie] Gen’ei o Kakeru Taiyou
[IB] Kin’iro Mosaic
[Hatsuyuki] Makai Ouji – Devils and Realist
[EveTaku] Rozen Maiden (2013)

And [HorribleSubs] Watamote should be replaced with [Commie] Watamote.

corocoro says:

Forgot these since the anime aren’t on the list at all:
[HorribleSubs] Inu to Hasami wa Tsukaiyou
[A-Destiny] Kingdom 2
[Commie] Senyuu. 2
[HorribleSubs] Senyuu. 2 (Shirt makes everything worse, so this is legit ;))

[FTW] Tamayura: More Aggressive (I think you said this isout-of-scope since the show’s boring?)
[Nishi-Taku] Tamayura: More Aggressive (I think you said this isout-of-scope since the show’s boring?)

Dark_Sage says:

Updated. Some notes:

No Senyuu cuz it’s continuing from last season. Don’t see a reason to waste a review slot on it.

No Kingdom cuz that shit is cancer.

No Tamayura, ever. Fuck that show.

Raph95 says:

Where are your usual reviews? Why only translation parties? I want my daily dose of your sarcasm.

corocoro says:

Reviews are only made from episode 2 on. And since most shows only have one episode so far…

Raph95 says:

Skipped that, haven’t been around almost since Whiners.Pro died.

mzry says:

DS what are the chances of some monogatari season 2 reviews?

ng says:

Imo an edit review for a monogateri should be joined by a translation review.

Enz says:

I’m either blind or there really isn’t any Hadena release on that list. Would it be possible to include at least one, regardless of the show? Your Hadena reviews are the most hilarious ones I’ve seen in a long time and I can never get enough of those~

srsn says:

D_S hope you can do a review of Katanako’s episode 2 for BroCon?

Ryuk says:

MFW D_S is slacking on his reviews. :3

Dark_Sage says:

Yeah yeah. That’s why I hired (without) pay the new guys.

Kamica says:

minus [EveTaku] and [Asenshi] Rozen Maiden off the queue and plus [EveSenshi]

Dark_Sage says:

A week without updating the queue… ugh.

Tonight I Tosho.

meishika says:

Will you do translation review for Uchoten Kazoku?

Kamica says:

Since [Commie] Gin no Saji got disqualified and [Commie] Gatchaman Crowds has exactly the same staff (hint: only Herkz), can we expect another disqualification review?

returnity says:

Cthuko = vale, go with them.

Anon says:

He’s talking about Cthuko, the fansubbing group (check Nyaa). vale is translating for them.

Kamica says:

Makes sense. Thanks for letting me know.

Dark_Sage says:

Their 01 qualified for a review. Haven’t bothered with 02 (if it’s even out yet). Currently trying to see what the fuck I have to do today to get back on schedule since I lost the entire week to work.

Dark_Sage says:

02 checks out as well. Looks like herkz really tried on this one.

Kamica says:

Herkz can effort? We all learned something new today.

Dark_Sage says:

Yup, you get top-tier subs. Take, for example, his translation of “itadakimasu”: http://www.crymore.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Commie-Gatchaman-Crowds-02-45FE1681.mkv_snapshot_04.41_2013.07.19_23.10.40.jpg

And everything that could be contracted was. http://www.crymore.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Commie-Gatchaman-Crowds-02-45FE1681.mkv_snapshot_01.00_2013.07.19_23.12.46.jpg

He’s the best inbreditor fansubbing’s got.

FalseDawn says:

Is that girl meant to be retarded?

Dark_Sage says:

Pretty sure it’s just projection.

temp_late says:

She’s meant to be airheaded and annoying. It’s a way to make the viewer empathize with the character because the subs are even more annoying than she is.

FalseDawn says:

Empathize = clicking that little x in the top right hand corner of the screen, right?

Dude says:

http://tokyotosho.info/details.php?id=676244

You know you want to, seiji.
They’re even looking forward into becoming legit subs ;p

Dark_Sage says:

They could be good, though. It’s a mystery!

Dark_Sage says:

All right, updated.

Kamica says:

Gotta do 5.4 reviews per week to clear out this season’s queue. Good luck with that!

Ryuk says:

One review a day, keeps the Kamica away. :D

Kamica says:

Nah. 0 reviews a day would do that job much more easily.

Nyan says:

Reviews for Cthuko – Gatchaman Crowds and Katanako – Brother Conflict soon? Maybe Makai Ouji reviews too?

Dark_Sage says:

Consult the poll. It is a mystic force that shall answer all thine questions.

atua says:

Any chance you’ll review Uchouten Kazoku?

Dark_Sage says:

Why don’t you check the queue and find out.

Bob Loblaw says:

Hey Dark_Sage. Are you going to start doing manga scan group comparisons/reviews? I help out shark0week0 by occasionally providing Viz versions or compiling the chapters from different groups.

You could email me if you’d like to discuss.

Dark_Sage says:

I hardly have enough time for fansub reviews, so no.

corocoro says:

hardly ==> don’t.

Ryuk says:

So… Next review when?

odinigh says:

Missing [Doki] Fate Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya.
You have UTW and HS in the list! ( ¬‿¬)

Kamica says:

Poll reset time. Looking forward to changing some of my votes (ex: not Blood Lad).

Frankabus says:

Seems like you’re missing:
[Hatsuyuki] Gin no Saji
[CMS] The World God Only Knows – Goddesses Arc

dogma says:

/r/ HS Kaiji S1 and S2 subs with the old releases from Triad and Nutbladder

Dark_Sage says:

Updated. I’m cutting out anything with under 10% of the vote and no competing groups. I presume nobody cares about those except for people who want to get off to my brilliant wit. And I have more than enough content coming up for that group.

Dropped:
[HorribleSubs] Fantasista Doll (4%, 51 Votes)
[HorribleSubs] Gifuu Doudou!! Kanetsugu to Keiji (1%, 10 Votes)
[HorribleSubs] Inu to Hasami wa Tsukaiyou (5%, 66 Votes)
[Commie] Senki Zesshou Symphogear G (5%, 62 Votes)
[Hatsuyuki] Makai Ouji – Devils and Realist (5%, 63 Votes)
[HorribleSubs] Kitakubu Katsudou Kiroku (2%, 29 Votes)

Dark_Sage says:

New poll up later today/tomorrow.

Kamica says:

Nothing of value was lost. Symphogear’s subs are consistent with S1’s and those other shows are terrible.

Dark_Sage says:

Should be able to throw up two Watamote reviews tonight. Commie and FTW’s posts would best be served by reviewing them in parallel, so if I wanna do one, I’m basically forced to do the other at the same time.

Until then, I’m going to be working (because although it doesn’t seem like it, I do have a full-time job) or playing Dragon’s Crown with my local crew. 4p couch co-op FTW.

Liebert says:

You should do a TL vs. review of Kimi Machi done by LAG and KIMISUBS.

I mean, look at this: http://puu.sh/40uOp.jpg, http://puu.sh/40vbw.jpg , http://puu.sh/40vcd.jpg

Left: Kimisubs, and Right: Lag…

Well, at the very least I can tell you kimisubs had an editing error in screen 3. Question without a question mark.

Megami Noir says:

Hi!

Could you please add my subs of “Choujigen Game Neptune” to your review queue?

http://purpleheartsubs.wordpress.com/2013/08/10/choujigen-game-neptune-05/

I think I did a better job than Commie. (Even if that’s not too difficult, as they’re mostly only D-Tier.)

Commie’s subs are littered with slang, localisation, changed names and terms and dumb nicknames (like “Iffy” and “Nappy”, err, “Neppy”.)
I’ve removed all that, fixed the translation where it was too far off (especially for the songs), added kanji and romaji with karaoke for the songs and finally also fixed Commie’s poor timing (there were numerous instances where they totally failed to hit the keyframes.)
I’ve also placed plenty of comments in the script, which you can have a look at.

Anyway, thanks for the great reviews you always do!

Dark_Sage says:

I didn’t even know you were subbing this show. Does anyone else? Typically the fansub community revolves around Nyaa and TokyoTosho as the primary places to put their subs, so that’s where the most informed leechers would go for their subs. Self-promotion is important: having good subs alone and relying on word-of-mouth won’t get your release seen.

Also, DDL should only be used as a secondary method of sharing files. I don’t see any torrents for your release, which means when that DDL provider determined you’ve reached the max amount of downloads, people can’t get your subs. So always throw that shit up to torrents. If you’re not keen on torrents, contact me on IRC and I’ll set you up on my seedbox.

Xythar says:

It’s just a weeaboo edit of the Commie release.

http://diffchecker.com/uqfhta3s

Dark_Sage says:

Oh god, those comments are hilarious.

Xythar says:

My favourite parts are the “translation fixes” on 222 and 240

what does むちむちしすぎ mean
what does 触手 mean

temp_late says:

But, but…

“the concept of honorifics is too much to grasp for those pea-brined [sic] Commie rednecks.”

Dark_Sage says:

It’s asked too much of them to know.

Megami Noir says:

Shame on me for having a typo in the comments, turning “brained” into “brined”. You must be really bored to point that out.

Xythar says:

You also put “It’s asked too much” in like a million comments, wrote “Sure it is!” when you meant “It sure is!” and added an incorrect comma to line 258. Just so you know.

People generally don’t put spaces before em dashes, either.

Megami Noir says:

If you don’t know what “to ask too much of somebody” means, here’s the entry from the Collins Thesaurus:
http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-synonyms/to%20ask%20too%20much%20of%20sb

“Sure it is”:
http://www.memecenter.com/fun/1025314/sure-it-is

Line 258 in Aegisub is about the Blanc manjuu. There’s no comma. Timecode?

The only case where you *don’t* put a space before an em dash is when the word before it is incomplete. Otherwise you *do* put a space before it.

Xythar says:

I didn’t say “ask too much”.

Thank you for proving my statement re: “sure it is” wrong using esteemed language reference “MemeCenter”. I withdraw my criticism.

Hint: The line to which you incorrectly added a comma is also the only line to which you added a comma. 21:27.

Positron says:

Except “It’s asked too much of…” is not how you use that expression, at all. Fuck, it makes my eyes hurt.

Megami Noir says:

So a Spaniard like you knows all about the English language? Hear, hear!

Positron says:

I’ve never claimed that (not everyone is an arrogant fuck, but I understand this concept may be somewhat alien to you), but I apparently still know more than you, Shimapan-kun. Good job on the whole “keyframe failure” fiasco too, talking like you know shit about timing and then being proven wrong by a bunch of people. Keep the entertainment up.

Ryuk says:

You’re profile pic is cute~

Positron says:

Sparky forever. <3

fnord says:

Shimapan, really now. We were making such progress and you weren’t using those stars for emphasis anymore. I had such high hopes.

Megami Noir says:

You really should drop this stupid “Shimapan” nonsense (you and the other Commie guy, Xythar).

It just sounds as if you had a bad case of persecution mania.

“Oh noes, someone is criticising our subs! That must be that Shimapan guy again!”

I’ve got no idea what that Shimapan did to you, but it seems to have made a lasting impression, causing you to develop this persecution mania.

fnord says:

Whatever you say, sauerkraut.

temp_late says:

Everybody makes typos, and it doesn’t matter in the comments, sure.

This was much more about pointing out the general attitude, especially if you’re using someone else’s script as base. If you have a beef with Commie, insulting them over using common conventions doesn’t seem like the best angle of attack.

Also, it was a deliberate set-up to allow somebody else to quote the “it’s asked too much” part.

FalseDawn says:

Wow. Just wow. I do hope that guy’s not British (the whole z–>s change makes me suspicious) because otherwise I’m gonna have to go find him and kick him off my island. It’ll probably instantly raise the IQ of the UK by ten points.

Xythar says:

He’s German.

FalseDawn says:

Explains a lot. He doesn’t give off the air of being a native, and apparently doesn’t understand different punctuation styles in subbing (though admittedly I like end-line punctuation, I don’t think anyone who doesn’t have it is automatically Hadena-level :O).

Oh well. Some weeaboos can’t be helped, eh?

Megami Noir says:

Careful, son. The last one who called me a Kraut didn’t live long enough to tell the tale.

Argon says:

Oh my god, I’m dying here.
Of laughter, that is.

Nevreen says:

I know, right? He’s adorable. Can we keep him?

Argon says:

Unfortunately, much as I would like to, we might worsen his neurological deficits. :/

corocoro says:

You’re an eisbein.

Megami Noir says:

You’re a baumkuchen!

Ryuk says:

Definitely a kraut

Megami Noir says:

I won’t tolerate any insults from someone with the English skills of a three-year-old.

That also goes for you, Mr. “You’re profile pic is cute~” Ryuk.

Dude says:

Gentlemen, please.
The word is “nutzi”.

Ryuk says:

Definitely a kraut, Mr. “I can time and edit better than a veteran fansubber” kraut.

Ryuk says:

Have you seen his profile pic?! It’s Kuroko Shirai! Who doesn’t like Kuroko Shirai?! She’s so muthafucking cute! Wait… Germans don’t like Kuroko Shirai? Well, sucks for them. They’re missing out on all the fun!

corocoro says:

Only it’s not Kuroko; it’s Misaka Mikoto.

Ryuk says:

Oh shit. Yeah… Wrong girl… Same hair color. They almost look the same too. Hehe.

Aru says:

>Mr

ftfy {removed American junk}

Megami Noir says:

Shut your gob, chav.
If someone kicked you off the island, it’ll instantly raise the IQ of the UK by at least twenty points.
At the very least, someone should neuter all you chavs, so you don’t breed like rabbits anymore.

Anon says:

>bra
>not brah

Megami Noir says:

I’m afraid I’m not a tranny like you, so I don’t wear any bras.

Lazy-kun says:

Never said you were a tranny, I just said that you had a nice bra. Pink and lacey is always nice.

FalseDawn says:

Well-thought out insult there. Kudos on its originality :|

So were you dropped on your head as a child or were you born stupid?

Megami Noir says:

I’ll have to say, you insult is rather bland and boring.
I thought insults and swearing was the only thing you chavs are good at, but it’s obvious now that you can’t even do that. I pity you.

FalseDawn says:

Oh, I get it. You’re a troll and it was a troll release. D_S doesn’t review troll releases so you might as well save your breath.

Btw, learn what a chav actually is, kthxbye.

Megami Noir says:

You sound pretty butt-hurt to me.
Oh noes, I hurt the feelings of a chav!

Hey, I’ve even got a pic of you and your chav friends!
http://imgbox.com/acn0goVw

Which one is you? I bet the one on the very right with that cross necklace.

FalseDawn says:

Ah, he knows what a chav is. Exciting. However, you’ll find that most British fansubbers look like this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ceAgdFpangY/StzN0iYmb_I/AAAAAAAAAi0/UDB3PDzy7kQ/s320/JohnCleeseSillyWalk.jpg

And yes, we do all walk like that.

Btw, which one is you in this photo:

http://ayay.co.uk/backgrounds/historical/nazi_third_reich/hitler-with-goering-goebbels-and-himmler-in-full-nazi-uniform.jpg

I bet you’re the dandy in white, aren’t you? ;)

Megami Noir says:

ChavDawn, I hope you’ve mastered the art of How Not To Be Seen, because otherwise…

There you go, best solution to get rid of chavs :D

Megami Noir says:

*ChavDawn is blown up by a big explosion*

FalseDawn says:

It’s like talking to a lobotomised chimpanzee. Oh well, you enjoy yourself in here, Herr Schwarz. I’m bored of making you look stupid (though you do it pretty well by yourself).

Argon says:

http://purpleheartsubs.wordpress.com/about-me/

The whole website looks like its build especially for Commie-correcting subs. :D

Megami Noir says:

Stating the obvious must be really fun! :D

As I wrote on the About page (the “About PH” one, not the “About me” page), turning Commie-Subs into something watchable was the reason I started everything.
For the first three episodes, there was Mousou, producing at least bearable subs, but they became defunct. So I decided to pick up the banner, so to say, and started with ep. 4.

Argon says:

Yes, you did.
:)

Megami Noir says:

Hello, Captain Obvious!
Your reading comprehension is seriously lacking, isn’t it? (Well, if it wasn’t and you had at least half a brain, you probably wouldn’t be in a D-Tier crap group.)
It’s what I wrote in my post, as well as on the About page on my page.
If you had an at least half-way decent editor, there would be no need to clean up behind you.
You also should get yourself a timer that isn’t half-blind and doesn’t miss the keyframes half of the time.

Xythar says:

Yes, I’m aware that you have no idea how to correctly translate, edit, or time. You don’t need to drive the point home with every post you make.

Megami Noir says:

Lookit there, this guy is that messed up already that he’s talking to himself now. Pitiful.
We already know that you’ve got no clue about translation, editing or timing, you don’t need to reaffirm it.

Megami Noir says:

For starters, look up what a “keyframe” is.
There’s a good reason you’re only a D-Tier group.

Xythar says:

And there’s a good reason that you clearly don’t know how to time.

Let me know when you figure it out.

Xythar says:

Actually, I’m just going to explain it here because watching you bluff in circles for another five posts probably won’t be that entertaining.

The purpose of scene timing is to snap to scene changes. Scene changes can usually be identified by keyframes assuming you encode your keyframes correctly, but not all keyframes are scene changes, and not all scene changes are keyframes. This is aptly demonstrated by the following “corrected” line from your release:

Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.01,0:03:09.71,Default,,0,0,0,,I wouldn’t be so sure. {Yet another keyframe failure}

This line was correctly snapped to the following scene change in the [Commie] release (which I noticed with some amusement that you renamed to [Rednecks] on your computer), but when you made your “fixes”, you chose to extend it past the scene change in question and snap it to a “fake” keyframe in the following scene, resulting in a scene bleed. So a line which previously disappeared with the scene change now remains awkwardly onscreen for around 300ms after it, distracting the viewer.

Please learn how to time before you criticise the timing of others, because I’ve seen you do nothing but make a massive fool of yourself in every post you’ve made on every site you’ve been to.

Dude says:

Glorious.

Certainly you can’t deny this esteemed nutzi gentleman a review, D_S?

Megami Noir says:

Here’s a screenshot of Aegisub showing that the line in question is properly timed to the keyframe in my subs:
http://imgbox.com/acbpNTaD

I’ll tell you a secret: keyframes are the pink lines you see in Aegisub’s audio window. (You *do* know what Aegisub is, do you?)

This isn’t the only line. There are still 21 other keyframe failures left in your subs. Do you want to try to weasel your way out of all these?

innocenat says:

Let me tell you another secret, probably the one you don’t know.

Line should be snapped to scenechanges, which are not necessarily keyframes.

Keyframes are what are likely to be scenechanges according to encoder (as in x264 or Xvid). Most timers always use Xvid first pass log file as their keyframe base because most of the time it’s more accurate than x264’s.

Xythar says:

And here are two consecutive frames during that line:
http://i.imgur.com/33hEjQ3.jpg

Ergo, you fail at timing. Please actually read my post this time and understand that scene timing has an actual purpose behind it as opposed to being a fun game where the objective is to snap to all the purple lines for no particular reason.

Most of the keyframes your “corrected” version snapped to weren’t anywhere near scene changes, probably because you were dumb enough to use the inaccurate premux keyframes instead of making your own with scxvid.

Ryuk says:

Styling genius! Man, I wish I could style at that level.

Dude says:

Oh, I get it. This is a joke, right?

Funny, actually had me for a while.

archdeco says:

Since you claim to be the best timer available, I decided to give your script timing pass. I’ll post results in a few hours since I’m preoccupied with other stuff at the moment. Look forward to it.

Megami Noir says:

I never claimed to be the “best timer” or anything. I just snapped anything to the keyframes in Aegisub where Commie had failed to do so.
If you want, you can check back my script in Aegisub. All lines fixed have been commented accordingly (22 timing fixes in total).

innocenat says:

You claim to be best timer available the very moment you refused to listen to other timers out there.

archdeco says:

As promised: http://pastebin.com/RSRG8cSQ

Overall out of 22 “fixes”, 12 of them are either errors or are simply redundant. If I were to grade your timing, that would be an immediate F. Add to that screwed up title, and you end up with F-.

Next time, don’t forget to load keyframes file. They make life simpler and exist for a reason. Here, I generated one for your Neptunia 05: http://www.mediafire.com/?a26j42u6i2iu3bz

Megami Noir says:

Thanks.
Still, that means that 10 fixes (about half of them) were done right. Not too bad.

As relying exclusively on Aegisub’s keyframes (as I did with ep. 5) doesn’t seem to be such a good idea, I’ll use a key frame file now, starting with next ep.
How do you generate these keyframe files?

archdeco says:

I don’t know whether these 10 fixes actually fixed stuff. I don’t have Commie’s release at hand, meaning I can’t check. But 12 mistakes are still way too much.

I have a script for geenrating keyframes. But I don’t use it for now since it eats at cpu, and I use my backup PC, which was bought in 2003 (meaning if I use it, it literally prevents me from using PC for at least 20 minutes). And it’s encoder’s responsibility to make keyframes.
(By the way, that mistake that Xythar pointed here: http://www.crymore.net/review_queue-summer-2013/comment-page-1/#comment-69185 was a legitimate mistake on your part. That means he was right.)

Megami Noir says:

Could you upload that script somewhere? (With links to required programs.) I’ve got a relatively recent PC and could try it.
About that one line – okay, I’ll believe you. My bad.

rarely_upset says:

what happened to the fixed comments?

Xythar says:

>Still, that means that 10 fixes (about half of them) were done right. Not too bad.

Generally speaking, there’s no “right” here. For example, if a line begins 300ms after a scene change, it’s up to the timer whether they’d rather snap it (and have 300ms leadin) or not snap it and have a reasonable amount of leadin. When I time things I usually snap if the line begins less than 200ms after a scene change or ends less than 500ms before a scene change, but it’s largely a matter of personal preference on the timer’s part.

The only things I’d consider wrong are ending/starting the line very close to a scene change (like within a few frames) or extending a line past a scene change.

Xythar says:

Also, here’s a guide to making scxvid keyframes like the ones archdeco posted:

http://unanimated.xtreemhost.com/scxvid.htm

It comes with a handy batch file that you can just drag and drop the video file on to in order to generate keyframes for it.

I dunno if you want to use it though seeing as how it was written by one of those Commie rednecks.

Megami Noir says:

Oh noes, a redneck batch file! XD
I’ll take a look at it anyway. If even a redneck can use it, I can, too.

archdeco says:

Well, I use 300/500 for lead-in/lead-out. As Xythar said, it’s a matter of personal preference.

This script is actually the newer version of the one I use, so I guarantee it’s good. Also, can you stop this rednek/chav bullshit?

Megami Noir says:

My upload speed is bloody low, so doing torrents would be painful
File1 is one of the few decent hosters where even free users get full speed (and not a measly 50 KB/s like ul.to and co.), and who isn’t trigger happy with deleting files either, so no problems with people getting the files.

Xythar says:

Hey, Shimapan. Did you manage to learn English and/or Japanese yet? Even one of the two would be an improvement.

(For those unaware of the history behind this, the following thread might be good for a few laughs)
http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=cmt&id=46409&page=2#c330525

sakagamitomoya Fuck xythar hes a gay jewish nazi cuntreamer says:

get out

Anonymous says:

That actually was funny. Him being german brings great shame to my country though.

anon says:

lol. the guy cares more about taking potshots at Commie than doing an actual legitimate release. good shit

Dude says:

Xythar:
“Dialogue: 3,0:21:39.65,0:21:43.17,Default,,0,0,0,,…killed the monsters with a Hyper Magic Penetration!
合体 does not mean “penetration” here. Trust me.
“…killed the monsters with a hyper magic combination!””

Shimapan:
“合体 can very well mean “penetration” (or even “copulation”). Look it up on wwwjdic.
It fits fine here, as it makes the attack name sound even more outrageous.”

I fucking lost it. This sounds like Arashi arguing that his amalgonite translation was correct.

Megami Noir says:

Thanks for the link, this Kraut is hilarious XD

Xythar says:

He just got even more hilarious.

Solaristics says:

Idk what you’re trying to achieve, but whatever is, stop. It’s not working.

adra says:

Gotta say, you managed to make me root for commie. That’s a pretty impressive feat.

Aru says:

Shimpan is well known in the German fansub community. He’s running a subgroup called “Erokawaii” (and one called “Pantsu ga daisuki” but they’re apparently the same) and has been around for a long time now.

What makes him sorta “famous” is that he’s been sticking to the old German spelling (it has been revamped between 1996 and 2006 in case you didn’t know) and he even has a blog post on his site stating why the German spelling reform is so evil.

returnity says:

Yes. Tell me more about this fansub innovator. Oh, and please god, tell me a full review of this gemsub is coming forth NOW!

Gebbi says:

You forgot to mention that his German subs are also shit, even if you ignore the old spelling.

He’s running a subgroup called “Erokawaii” (and one called “Pantsu ga daisuki” but they’re apparently the same)

Yep, you’re right. Maximum autism.

Gebbi says:

Ah, forgot to mention, those “two groups” even co-op with “each other”.

Argon says:

Advanced paranoid schizophrenia?

archdeco says:

Or dissociative identity disorder.

Anonymous says:

Hey D_S when’s the next post about subgroup drama coming?

Dark_Sage says:

When drama happens, I’ll be there for you.

csb says:

I… don’t know if I missed something, but is that the real Xythar posting again in this site or someone impersonating him? I just wanna know if the potential drama will be coming back or not.

(Please forgive my utter ignorance)

Dark_Sage says:

Yes.

Anon says:

>>real or fake?
>Yes.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)

Dark_Sage says:

The former.

Dark_Sage says:

Wanted to do FLag’s review tonight but it’s another shitty fucking release that I have to spend a disproportionate amount of time on with pointing out all the stupid fucking issues. So it’s delayed till tomorrow as I get some sleep.

For anyone on the fence at this very moment, Vivid’s release is the one you should go with. I’ll back that up when FLag’s review comes out.

Dude says:

Review that Vivid Noir guy’s release instead!

Dark_Sage says:

Ah, you guys did a fine enough job of that already. <3

duplex says:

Are you reviewing FLag’s episode 5 script? Is it too late to tell you to look at episode 6 instead (or any other episode that had QC done)?

Dark_Sage says:

Yes, it’s too late if you waited to tell me that until after I said I didn’t like the release.

Dark_Sage says:

If it’s any consolation, the problems I noticed are mainly the result of your TL and editor being dysfunctional. I wouldn’t expect a QC to be responsible for fixing them.

Dark_Sage says:

Though I do feel sympathy for your editor who was apparently forced to deal with sentences like “I’m Diva-chan, Ortus’ place doctor”.

Xythar says:

I just realised that “place” was probably a typo of “palace”.

Dark_Sage says:

Yup, a very unfortunate typo to make.

Black Shads says:

Can you add DameDesuYo to Love Lab?

Karen says:

I’d like to see a review of their Love Lab as well. I’ve been watching their releases all season and enjoyed them.

Sheep says:

Will you(D_S or whoever) be linking to 8thsin’s translation reviews in the future?

Just asking because I noticed that was a thing previously and he has four translation scores / reviews and one translation analysis(comparison of Daisuki and Commie in-depth for Monogatari S2) up on his blog.

Apologies if this was already asked.

Dark_Sage says:

Well, he only has one review up for a series I don’t see myself talking about anymore. If he beats me to the punch on a show, sure, I’ll include a link to his site. I love 8th. But I’m not in the habit of editing old reviews for minor reasons, and I don’t plan to start now.

Sheep says:

Alright. Thanks for the response!

Keep up the awesome work.

Xythar says:

Shimapan just started up a third group tag for the project above.

http://leninvi.wordpress.com/

I think he might actually be insane.

Dark_Sage says:

> The translation was in a very poor shape, so correcting it all took quite a while.

This can only end well.

Xythar says:

http://www.diffchecker.com/fiw3dv7s (typesetting left in because herkz is lazy)

I think he’s just taking the piss now. Oh well.

shi0nmaku says:

Can I request for kimisubs, lag/lag-chuu, and nubles for kimi no iru machi releases? I mean, translation reviews. :)

Kamica says:

New posts rarely came on weekdays (monday-friday) in the past. The past 12 fansub reviews (not counting disqualification) have all been weekday posts. It’s funny how you’ve switched around your reviewing schedule this season.

corocoro says:

Some official outfit seems to have picked up Love Lab seeing how HorribleSubs has released rips of it. One more thing for you to not get around to. ;)

Anon says:

Crunchyroll picked it up a couple of weeks ago.

Dark_Sage says:

Updated.

begna112 says:

Think you could review our (DameDesuYo) release of the Seitokai no Ichizon Lv.2 OVA? its on Nyaa, tosho and minglong.

small patch to fix alignment error on OP: http://d.pr/f/CJWS

Erik says:

I had a look through the script real quick to look at grammar and such. Make of it what you will.

02:55 – “I’m always thirsty for your chocolate!” (shouldn’t that be ‘hungry’?)

04:10 – “You won’t look at other girls anymore, understand?” (pretty sure it’s ‘any more’)

06:39 – “How could you ruin my hopes like that!?” (the only expression I know of like this is ‘dashing one’s hopes’)

07:03 – “Don’t you have a TV recording today?” (if I’m not mistaken, ‘shoot’ is the correct term here since she’s actually in it)

07:20 – “Oh, a compulsory chocolate?” (‘giri’ means ‘obligation’, not ‘compulsory’. ‘Giri-choko’ is on wikipedia for crying out loud)

begna112 says:

First one, as i was explained it, is supposed to be an innuendo.

I tried to make the compulsory->obligatory switch but TL didnt like it because there was a play on words later in the episode where the preisdent is trying to say its that but can only say con- instead of compulsory. Take it or leave it, in my mind the difference between the two words in english is very slim.

Erik says:

Crap, misclicked and posted.

10:29 – “I’ve got so much!” (I’d roll with ‘I’ve gotten so much’ but that’s more because the current line feels awkward)

12:35 – “Well, it should be fine to just talk to him how I always do.” (isn’t this supposed to be ‘like I always do’?

17:55 – “I see. Then it makes me all the more happy.” (should be ‘all the happier’)

In short: still things to improve on but then again, there’s no such thing as a flawless fansub.

begna112 says:

Thanks for the quick feedback tho i was looking for a more overall review. Definitely editing has been one of our trouble areas so if thats all we missed, that’s a good sign.

Not a merkin says:

> 10:29 – “I’ve got so much!” (I’d roll with ‘I’ve gotten so much’ but that’s more because the current line feels awkward)

cf. urban dictionary. #2 is a prime example.

Dark_Sage says:

I’d have this fucking Love Lab review out by now if FFF didn’t suck so fucking much. Goddamn.

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