Winter 2014 W4: I put effort into this post you don’t even know

Anime Opinions, Article — By on January 24, 2014 7:54 pm

This post was written by Dark_Sage. He is Dark_Sage.

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I know how much you all care about weekly episodic blogging, so I composed this post with the help of my pen, phone, and a little bit of moxie.

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You’re welcome.



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56 Comments

diablosfiji says:

Nice handwriting you Loli-con. :P

Hunta says:

They have moxie in Ohio? I thought it was a New England thing.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/Moxie_logo.jpg

Jark says:

Excellent chicken scratch.

dude says:

>not watching Chu2two

laughingimoutos says:

I think you meant Chuu2²

dude says:

Too much effort to type for my lazy ass.

Ryuk says:

You’re handwriting is interesting… How’d you italicize it?

Mitsukai says:

So many nos.

Vince says:

Jesus Christ this website is for assholes made by assholes making thread after thread on how your FREE subs aren’t perfect this is sad.

Solaristics says:

Are you mad by any chance?

Ryuk says:

Someone’s mad.
Technically, it’s made by ONE asshole which is Dark_Sage.

Also plz don’t use Jesus’ name like that. It’s very offensive. We fansubbers have feelings too, you know?

Ryuk says:

BTW, half of what I say is sarcasm… Don’t take it personally, but you’re retarded.

Vince says:

Talk to Dark_sage about your feelings he’s the one who claims your fan-subbing skills suck ass. This is a website sending out a message that everybody sucks taking everybody’s hard work for granted.

Solaristics says:

You’re a moron. Do you even know what a “reviewing” site is? Or is that word too big for for vocabulary that you’re going to take it up the ass and moan about it?

Vince says:

And you’re an asshole you’re reviewing FREE shit dumb ass you and dark sage can shove this “reviewing” site up your asses. I bet you guys write love letters to each other in that fucked up hand writing.

Nyangoro says:

Speak for yourself, man. I am losing valuable bandwidth over here.

Ash says:

So, your argument is that people shouldn’t have an opinion on the quality of something because you can get it for “free” ? So, I take it you’ve never said a bad word about any show you’ve ever watched a broadcast of? Those are technically free. What about a drinking fountain with filthy tap water? Would you drink it and say that it’s acceptable simply because it’s free?

Having reviews of fansubs is a way of telling others which subs are of the best quality and encouraging people to download those. Additionally, the subs that are of the best quality generally take more effort to produce, so in the long run, this site gets the people who do the best work some additional downloads, making the others who don’t work as hard get fewer, hopefully resulting in the other groups putting in more effort the next time. So, if anything, these reviews ENCOURAGE hard work.

In other words, both of the arguments you just tried to make are invalid.

Vince says:

And how exactly would you know how hard they work or if your shit talking encourages them or not? Less mistakes doesn’t mean one group worked harder than the other. These guys aren’t professionals they’re doing this as a hobby or their desire to help out the anime community of course there will be mistakes. And FYI you are not entitled/obligated to perfect FREE subs just so you know, but as a human being you are entitled to clean drinking water so your water fountain argument is INVALID. Also There is a difference between simple opinions and biased hate posts on how the subbing that people do for FREE and in their own spare time isn’t good enough. Which makes your opinions and TV broadcasts argument INVALID. My arguments are very much valid sir.

In other words, everything you just typed contradicts itself and makes you look like an idiot.

Solaristics says:

Lol. You’re retarded, as if shit talking does anything to people on the internet. This includes Fansubbers. I work for a group and Idgaf if people shit talk, and yet here, you’re talking as if you know the place. You’re just some leecher. Stop acting like some tough guy that thinks the Internet is a place where people can’t criticize each others’ work.

With that, I’m done. I’ve wasted enough braincells on you.

duplex says:

>Solaristics
>having brain cells at all
top kek my sides have losted it

Solaristics says:

Lelellelel. Brain cells*. Stupid typo. Also, go somewhere else, maybe you can work on that ‘Dub’ editing you’re doing. kek.

duplex says:

>‘Dub’ editing
k

Ash says:

“And how exactly would you know how hard they work or if your shit talking encourages them or not? ”

Fansubbers not only often post on this site and say that the posts made them realize that they either need a better team, or request a V2 to fix mistakes before reviews. If their subs review better, this site’s readers are more likely to download them.

“Less mistakes doesn’t mean one group worked harder than the other.”

Many mistakes can be fixed by simply having someone simply proofread the script. A script with a lot of mistakes means that the group either didn’t have anyone proofread them, didn’t take the time to check themselves, or didn’t bother to find someone who could which demonstrates a lack of effort.

“And FYI you are not entitled/obligated to perfect FREE subs just so you know, but as a human being you are entitled to clean drinking water so your water fountain argument is INVALID.”

Tell that to anyone living in a country where the drinking water is terrible and they’ll laugh at you.

“Also There is a difference between simple opinions and biased hate posts on how the subbing that people do for FREE and in their own spare time isn’t good enough. ”

They’re both opinions, though, so that’s merely a distinction without a difference. Also, the posts on this site may be snarky, but they’re generally meant to be humorous as well as informative, so they don’t qualify as “hate posts.”

Vince says:

“Fansubbers not only often post on this site and say that the posts made them realize that they either need a better team, or request a V2 to fix mistakes before reviews.”

Yea but how do you know that drive that made them do a V2 or get a better team is from feelings of encouragement? They could have had their feelings hurt and didn’t like people saying bad things about their work or feelings of annoyance. Stop talking as if you’re some kind of physic that knows exactly how they feel not everybody is like you.

“A script with a lot of mistakes means that the group either didn’t have anyone proofread them, didn’t take the time to check themselves, or didn’t bother to find someone who could which demonstrates a lack of effort.”

Sometimes there are amateur fan subgroups that work harder than anybody else but their subs still aren’t as good as groups with more experience because they lack the skills and resources to produce A+ quality.

“Tell that to anyone living in a country where the drinking water is terrible and they’ll laugh at you.”

How would you know they’d laugh at me if I told them what their rights are as humans beings? Maybe they’d strive for a better future and protest to their government for better water. You keep acting as if you can predict what people will do and what people will feel just stop.

Ash says:

Seriously? Your counterargument is “you can’t say that because you’re not psychic.” Cute.

Onward, then.

“Yea but how do you know that drive that made them do a V2 or get a better team is from feelings of encouragement? They could have had their feelings hurt and didn’t like people saying bad things about their work or feelings of annoyance. Stop talking as if you’re some kind of physic that knows exactly how they feel not everybody is like you. ”

Boo-fucking-hoo. If they were that offended then they’d probably stop frequenting the site and if they ARE that offended, it’d be their fault for going out of their way to read something that offends them.

“Sometimes there are amateur fan subgroups that work harder than anybody else but their subs still aren’t as good as groups with more experience because they lack the skills and resources to produce A+ quality. ”

Fansubs are meant to be seen by people. If they’re simply incapable of putting out decent content they should be prepared for criticism. You seem to be saying that criticism in-and-of-itself is a bad thing.

“How would you know they’d laugh at me if I told them what their rights are as humans beings? Maybe they’d strive for a better future and protest to their government for better water. You keep acting as if you can predict what people will do and what people will feel just stop.”

Have you ever talked to someone from an unfortunate country? They’re often surprised at the amount of importance that luckier people place in things that they’re used to being much worse. Now you’re saying that you alone could have the ability to inspire a demand for change in a person, as if the thought couldn’t have occurred to them without you. Also, you ask how I’d know how they respond and then immediately state a much less plausible prediction, yet you’re the one who keeps throwing around the whole psychic thing. Good job.

says:

vincefriend, I don’t know why you’re so upset

I do shit work for a shitty mid-tier group and I think that d_s is an awful hypocritical person, and I don’t listen too much to his “advice” (although admittedly some things he says are helpful and have led me to make improvements!).

but just because he’s a terrible person, doesn’t mean you need to get so emotionally involved!

just like, ignore his shit, y’know? there will always be assholes in the world, and whining about their whining isn’t going to help anyone with anything. you’ll get mad, they’ll get mad, no one likes that.

move on. if you really feel strongly about it, start doing whatever the asshole is doing better than the asshole, and in a non-assholish way. you’ll be more popular in the long run, i promise. (if you can do a legitimately better job)

FalseDawn says:

Vince, I’m afraid you have a number of misconceptions here about this site and fansubbing in general. Let me rectify these for you:

1) Most of the visitors to this site are fansubbers, because heck, we like to know what’s going on with the competition. And if we can toot our own horns in the process, all the better.

2) Fansubbers are elitist jerks. We always have been (ever since I can remember), always will be. If there’s weakness in our rival groups, we exploit it and go in for the kill. And to be honest, this site is tame compared to the flat out trolling out yesteryear – and all the groups were at it, pretty much.

3) If your amateur subgroup doesn’t produce the goods, they might as well not produce subs at all, because let’s face it, with simulcasts pretty much blowing every fansub group out of the water to start with, there will always be a better alternative. So what’s the need for them to fansub?

4) If individual fansubbers don’t like it, they’re free not to visit this site. I believe most of Commie have taken this route :D

5) Fansubbers really don’t need their leechers standing up for them, no matter how amusing it is.

FalseDawn says:

That ‘out’ after trolling should read “of”. That’ll teach me for not proofreading my own posts :D

Oh and an exception I should add to point number 3 (because it’s also a shameless plug): Of course, this only applies to the weekly releases that D_S deals with. There are plenty of other fansub groups out there subbing for the pleasure of it and doing projects no other group is doing (like all of Saizen’s wonderful series), so they justify their existence through those means (though most of us have A+ editing which is clearly why D_S doesn’t review our shows ;).

Solaristics says:

Yep, you’re some mad 13 y/o kid.

Vince says:

Calling me a 13 year old is actually an insult to yourself because that would mean a 13 year old has better moral values than you and takes peoples feelings into consideration more than you do. And doesn’t talk shit just because you’re anonymous on the internet. Which means a 13 year old also has bigger balls than you do.

Solaristics says:

I can see that you’re still hurt up the ass. Keep crying about it, kid.

Fuwaa says:

Hey, you’re reading this website for free! How dare you insult it like that.

Anonymous says:

LOL!

FalseDawn says:

All fansubbers suck. What’s your issue? :S

Kawwmoi says:

so http://www.crymore.net/2014/01/17/fansub-review-fff-noragami-episode-02/ which is ranked as A-tier is D_S saying that FFF sucks? Damn. Didn’t know that compliments equated to insults these days.

Nyangoro says:

He’s right, D_S. That font alone is like… blargh. It’s not even a uniform size. Get it together, man!

shcboomer says:

I give the typesetting an F.

says:

actually it’s mostly whining about how shitty they are

Pelfmiester says:

@Vince And you post this whining complain in a thread that has abolutely nothing to do with the quality of fansubbing.

pengu says:

Not sure if troll or just really dumb…

We are not in kindergarten anymore, where you get complimented regardless of the quality of your work. Free or not, people will always criticize everything, get used to it. The other option would be to simply stop providing your hard work if it pisses you off so much that somebody points out mistakes while being a bit sarcastic.

Dark_Sage says:

This entire thread is fucking hilarious.

I love you guys.

Absolute says:

>Toaru Loli Song
Okay…

Fujiri says:

Toaru Love Song, try harder

superzarop says:

Awh I thought it was loli too, and it made sense.

NexXKinn says:

you all people don’t know that great handwriting…
this one is half doctor-handwriting, you know?

Dark_Sage says:

If keyboards were never invented, I do suppose I would have had to go that route.

Probably best for everyone’s sake that I don’t get to play with organs and knives though.

Anonymous says:

>that handwriting
fucking disgusting. lrn2 engineering lettering.

Dark_Sage says:

Disgusting in a sexual sense, or disgusting in a sexual sense?

花見華 says:

So Wake Up, Girls! is not even worth a no? Shame on you…

Dark_Sage says:

Haven’t watched it yet so I can’t comment.

The one-hour movie commitment is keeping me away.

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