Fansub Review: [Kaylith] Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso (Episode 03)

Fansub Review: [Kaylith] Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso (Episode 03)

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Watching Shigatsu is painful, because it reminds me that I never got to have sex with an anime girl named Kawori in high school.

Table of Contents

Release Information

Visual Quality

Script Quality

Results

 

Release Information

Episode details.

Release format: MKV (282 MB, 10-bit), LQ MP4 (140 MB)

Japanesiness: Non-honorifics by default, honorifics on the second track.

English style: American English.

Encoding details: http://pastebin.com/34d7xQpK

Speed: Quick (<48 hours)

Translation style: Aniplex edit.

 

External links.

Group website: https://kaylith.co.uk/

IRC channel: #[email protected]

 

 

Visual Review

Karaoke.

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Opening. Boring-ish kara for a boring-ish OP. …which means it fits the theme. Good job, Kaylith.

Rating: Okay+.

 

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Ending. See my points on the OP.

Rating: Okay+.

 

 

Typesetting.

Spoiler:

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The typesetting was impressively precise. Sasuga Kaylith.

 

 

Other.

The epileptic encode is tolerable when the scene cuts are few and far between, but near the later portion of the episode — when the scenes kept switching from face to face — it became extremely irritating.

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I had to grate my teeth harder than a meth addict to get through the episode. Is it so much to ask for a QC? Or even better yet, an encoder who gives a shit?

 

 

 

Script Review

Main Script.

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Show some consistency in your releases. The “this shit is right out of a movie” theme isn’t exactly subtle.

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Thanks for having my back on this, Kaylith’s episode 2.
As such, try to use the right terminology.

http://www.imdb.com/glossary/S#stand_in

as opposed to

http://www.imdb.com/glossary/S#substitute (I’ll spare you the click; the term isn’t in their glossary.)

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You don’t generally hear about sweets being cooked. Why wouldn’t you use “baking” here?

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I’m quite disappointed by the lack of a Tinku Tinku Rittu Sta transcription. Don’t you see, Kaylith? This is where a secondary script should be used.

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Punning with a visual daikon gag may be hard, but it’d be rad if you could pull it off.

For real though, the lack of a pun in this scene causes quite the mismatch with the dialogue. Most viewers will immediately recognize something’s off when they get to this point in your release.

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You mean “excuse”? I’m going to assume you used “reason” here because of your less-than-judicious use of “excuse” later in the episode, but if you re-worded a couple of those lines, you’d have a convenient justification to use it here.

 

And learn some new words, please.

2Just

 

Look, I don’t wanna complain too much. The dialogue in this release tends toward fantastic, thanks mostly to intelligent editing.

vs. Aniplex’s “And so on…”

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vs. Aniplex’s “The sounds I play…”/”fade away from my reach, tangling up like flowers seized by the spring wind…”/”…and vanish.”

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vs. Aniplex’s “I can make you time to rehearse!”

…but that doesn’t mean I ain’t gonna whine about something. I got my sagey rep to maintain!

 

 

 

Results

Watchability: Most watchable.

Visual grade: B+

Script grade: A-

Overall grade: A-

The only other “competition” for Shigatsu is HorribleSubs and a Commie re-encode of the HorribleSubs release. As such, I’m pretty confident in recommending you go with Kaylith’s release of the best show this season.

 

Edit: Kaylith just dropped the show. In lieu of their subs, I recommend HorribleSubs.

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276 thoughts on “Fansub Review: [Kaylith] Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso (Episode 03)”

  1. Awesome, thanks for doing this! Pity there wasn’t much other competition around as far as release groups went.

    Edit: Under your “Other” section, could you explain what you mean? What is the irritation? (unless one needs to watch this particular episode to get what you are referring to)

    • Basically whenever the scene changes, one frame that’s really bright and washed-out appears before what the scene is supposed to look like.

      This is pretty minor until the scene shifts start coming in frequently, making it look like the screen is flashing whenever the perspective changes.

  2. What exactly do you mean by TLC for the erm, train sequence and the competition?

    If you mean the left display panel on the bus, if you had only taken the first screenshot a few seconds earlier, or had taken the time to read the stuff on it, then you’d realize that the English appears first, which is then followed by the same thing in the different Japanese writing systems…

    And for the competition if you mean the 4-odd signs at the back of the stage, those are extremely time-consuming signs that were skipped in favor of batch. If you prefer a time estimate, I’d say it would take maybe 2-4 hours for each sign for someone very used to all the tools, making no mistakes at all.

  3. Kaylith has been a real suprise this year and picking subs for the shows they are working on has been a really easy task.
    I do prefer Aniplex in those last 2 sets of screenshots but they are both fine.

  4. Sorry, does Kaylith count as a cartel group and if so, do I need to voice my displeasure about this review in order to avoid appearing biased? I’m not too clear on the specifics.

    • >Fyurie – Group lead and nyaa mod
      >Xythar – Editor for Kaylith + nyaa mod
      >Kaylith – 2/3 shows blue

      A group containing multiple nyaa mods marking their own releases blue? Yes, it’s cartel.

          • ZnT was pretty good, I thought. It was awesome at first and went severely downhill after Five showed up. But yeah, other than that, practically ever show Kaylith’s worked on has been utter dogshit. Poor Kaylith.

                    • Well that’s pretty silly. Hopefully you change your mind or work out whatever issues you had with Kaylith.

                      I’ll miss the amazing typesetting Kaylith had and the optional honorifics track was nice for those who prefer them, but oh well.

                    • I’m still laughing, holy shit. This is just ludicrous.

                      You told Commie to take a hike because fts wasn’t TLCing, and now you don’t give a shit.

                      Thanks for wasting my time, and letting down the people who liked what we did outside of the editing department.

                      What a shame.

                    • I don’t think I have to remind you two that you signed agreements and contracts prohibiting drama and limiting the outside perception of the cartel to certified PR personnel.

                      If you have any internal disagreements, please invoke §93 sect. G and refer it to the Court of Arbitration.

                    • I’ve said everything I’ve needed to.

                      There’s not much more for me to say than this, I just needed to get that out there so people can see how shitty you’ve just been.

                      That’s that, I’m done with it.

                    • Then allow me to defend myself. I’m an eye-for-an-eye kind of guy, so I’ll just say it’s a shame that you had to go and make this public in the first place before I follow you down that rabbit hole. Similarly, you should’ve known that post was a bad idea.

                      (I also thought everything was cool until I read that…)

                      Commie had an editor ready to do it in my stead. Their tlc informed me that he wouldn’t be available so I made sure to let people know I was going to do it with Kaylith well in advance of the show airing.

                      Of course I give a shit. But having to sit here and type this crap is the definition of a waste of time. You dropped ts on another project elsewhere–maybe an hour before we were set to release–and cited bad leadership when that group’s leader wouldn’t pick up your slack.

                      I told you it was silly behavior. This whole time, I haven’t been mad–just disappointed. I thought it was a misguided defense given your role in Kaylith as primarily a group manager who didn’t want to take on such roles himself, and yet there you were not one full day later, claiming to vacate a similar role in your own group. I called you on this, and instead of accepting any sort of criticism, you dared me to quit the project.

                      What am I supposed to do? That’s a shitty work environment no matter how you slice it. And since we do this for free anyway, there’s no incentive to be “managed” by someone I can’t respect. So I called your bluff. I didn’t ask you to drop the show, and I certainly didn’t pick it up elsewhere out of any sort of spite. I enjoy the show and I want to enjoy working on it. Your attitude didn’t facilitate that, and that’s all there is to it.

                    • It’s okay, I still think you’re a piece of shit regardless.

                      I picked up the show solely because you wanted to do it, nothing changes that fact.

                      You’ve been an attitude issue the whole damn time you were at Kaylith. Good riddance.

                      No-one else cites these work-environment problems, except you, I wonder if this is because of something? Who knows.

                    • Pls sweep this all under the rug and privately make up so I can have my Kaylith typesetting AND my Jing editing for Shigatsu. ;_;

                    • …Because it’s my opinion? I’m not trying to rally anyone behind me. Everybody else is great, and I hope you all still have a good relationship. The problem was between you and me. I even said we’d both be better off with me off the project so as not to keep getting at each other’s throats. Little did I know that you’d jump to this so quickly.

                      It also seems that you’ve been harboring some ill will towards me for quite a while now. What a wonder indeed that I considered working with you a bad experience when there’s been animosity coming from your side the entire time. You’ve only shown me that I made the right call.

                    • You’re obviously both just tsundere for each other. Going dere / confession scene when?

                      That aside, RIP having a near-perfect release for this anime. A shame it seems like neither of you are going to budge or try talking things out calmly in IRC or something. :(

                    • >>I’m not trying to rally anyone behind me.
                      >Shots fired!

                      Pls no bully. This kills the fansub.

            • Well that blows.

              At least Zankyou no Terror was pretty great until Five showed up, so maybe that kinda counts as a good show Kaylith has subbed? Isshuukan Friends wasn’t bad either.

            • God fucking damn it.

              I was gonna make a joke about the whole “first good show Kaylith’s worked on”, but I’m just too disappointed to do so.

              Is Kaylith cursed? First the shit with Danna ga nani, now this?

            • Oh well. I guess I’ll just go with HorribleSubs for Shigatsu. I mostly waited for Kaylith for their delicious typesetting, and Commie’s TS isn’t really worth waiting for. The editing is nice and all, but the script is already decent enough.

  5. D_S, just one thing I wanted to point out. It is possible to cook sweets. For instance, many dishes involving melting chocolate are done in a pot (by professional chefs, the only legal use of a copper pot). You also have stuff like creme puffs that are deep fried and then frozen.

    I haven’t taken my baking course yet so I can’t speak too well on the subject, but I think the cook sweets isn’t improper at all.

  6. I prefer watching my shows with typesetting, song translation and a decent font style. Gonna go with commie. Really sad that Kaylith dropped it, just when they started to become one of my new favorite fansub groups.

  7. Kaylith is a shit group. Never archived anything they spit out. Though to be fair, they’ve only worked on two series I was even interested in to start with, but I guess that goes to show that they just have shitty taste in anime projects too.

  8. Well shit. I really loved Kaylith’s release and was really looking forward to the latest episode. ;_; I would hope that somehow this whole drama is resolved, but that’s probably not going to happen based on the shitstorm that went on above.

    Anywho, seeing how Jing’s moving over to Commie for editing, wouldn’t that be a better option than HS? That would mean a great script, and decent typesetting and karaoke.

  9. This is a fucking terrible season for fansubbing, God damn. Borderline depressing, even. The only glimmer of hope from this season is that Cthuko’s returned.

    Going to miss Kaylith. Really sad that something as minor as this had led to one of the best fansub groups in years dying.

    • >posting your face on the internet
      >having any digital footprint AT ALL
      Yeah, nah. I seriously hope no one does this.

      Also, I seriously hope Fyurie is okay with you linking his personal Facebook, coz if not this is pretty uncool.

  10. Well, the drama scaled way too hard.

    If this is what happens when you get an A, I don’t even want to know what would happen if D_S disqualified it.

    P.S.: I know that one thing has nothing to do with another, I’m just joking.

  11. What a world we live in where the choices for subs are between Crunchyroll and Commie affiliated mega localized memesubs.

    #happening #epic #anime

        • The editor of this release went to Commie, so there won’t be any memes. It’ll be the exact same editing style because the same person is editing their release from episode 4 and onward.

          Not as many signs will be translated and the sign translations won’t look as nice as Kaylith’s did, but it’s pretty much the same release starting at episode 4 other than that.

        • It’s decent, but it doesn’t hold a candle to Kaylith’s TS. It’s pretty much only the necessities / the signs that were translated in Crunchyroll’s script and they don’t look as nice as Kaylith’s.

    • Probably not, herkz didn’t like it that D_S wasn’t reviewing Commie’s release, if D_S finds that as amusing as I do then he won’t.

      • I had been considering it, but with this information, my amused level for Shigatsu is maxed out. So I’m going to forget about the show and move onto something else~

    • Why does it matter if he reviews Commie release. It’s the only option anyway. I mean Commie are good enough that I’d prefer them over HS so no choice.

      • I’ll stick with the CR version, as I’d rather not worry about the distinct possibility of Commie getting bored and putting random trolling in it, especially when it would be tempting because of all the drama already associated with subbing it.

    • Kaylith had blue, but dropped the show. So blue would then go to the best group that’s still doing it. Considering Kaylith’s editor for the show is working on it at Commie now, is it so surprising that they’d get blue? Oh, and Commie and Kaylith were the only two groups subbing the show, so I really don’t get what your point is.

      • >Kaylith had blue
        No? Unless it got removed literally as Kaylith announced them dropping it because I checked then, even before that I don’t remember them having blue.

        • Didn’t they? I rarely actually visit Nyaa, but I thought they did. My mistake if they didn’t. Even if that’s the case, I still don’t see what the hubbub is all about. Commie’s release is better than CR’s, and they’re the only group subbing the show, so they get blue.

          If you want to complain about Kaylith not having blue before this, go ahead, but I don’t see why you’d raise a fuss about Commie getting it now.

          • Because blue isn’t meant to be given to a release because it’s better than the source they are pretty much copy-pasting from, and yeah, it’s not that Commie got it now, it’s that Kaylith didn’t have it when it was much superior to Commie and since Commie was also subbing the show Kaylith would probably only see blue at the end of it.

            • Blue, according to Nyaa’s policy, goes to whichever group has the best release as long as it passes a minimum bar of quality. Commie’s release is the best one now, so they get blue (and again, since Kaylith’s old editor for the show is now doing it at Commie, I don’t think it’s fair to claim it’s “pretty much copy-pasting”).

              If you say that your main issue is with Kaylith not getting blue before, I’ll leave it at that, since I do agree that they should have gotten it, but it’s mostly crying over spilled milk at this point.

      • Let’s hope that shin-kaylith will save us.

        P.S.: Jing said there were honorifcs, but it hasn’t any(Yeah, I heard the guy saying Kaori-chan).

        • No, he said, “Magic Kaito, Danna ga Nani, and Mouryou no Hako (old series) are all shows I’m working on & using jp honorifics for.”

          I don’t see Shigatsu anywhere in that list. The fact that you can’t read doesn’t make him a liar.

          • Uhh.. What? Did you read the thing I said (the thing Jing was replying to)? I asked what he was editing BESIDES Commie’s Psycho-Pass and Shigatsu since Commie obviously doesn’t allow honorifics in their releases. Look at Commie’s “showtimes” page. Says it right there that he’s editing both of them.

    • >The encoding is also awful.

      I found your remark interesting, since it’s actually pretty hard to screw up encoding from a clean Aniplex source like Shigatsu (Aniplex’s CR shows are pretty much the best video source you can get before the BDs come out). So I compared three arbitrary scenes from the Commie and Kaylith release of episode 1.

      http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/98698

      They look pretty much the same to me – if anything, I think Commie’s preserves slightly more detail in dark scenes (eg the bottom-right of comparison 3), but the difference is slight enough to be negligible.

      Care to explain what you found so “awful” about it?

          • I took 15 precious minutes of my life taking some screenshots but seems like I fucked with the jpg and they’re all shit now.
            So I’ll just say that the fade-ins and fade-outs are blurry, as is most of the fine traces and the reddish colors are oversaturated. Someone fucked with denoise filter.

                • I don’t think anything did happen. It should look pretty much the same as the source with some light debanding, as I believe my comparisons have shown.

                  Any differences in color, etc are either a rendering issue on your end or a perceptual issue in your mind (you expect Commie’s encode to be bad because you expect Commie to be bad, and so it looks bad to you).

                  • So HorribleSubs won’t render the same way as Commie renders?
                    and
                    >you expect Commie’s encode to be bad because you expect Commie to be bad, and so it looks bad to you
                    If I were to think like that, I would have watched it by horriblesubs directly.

                    • I dunno what kind of setup you have, but maybe it handles 8bit and 10bit stuff differently. Or it might be entirely in your head, I’m really not sure. Kinda hard to offer much else without knowing where to look.

                    • Well, unless you can give me some kind of example, I can only conclude that you’re seeing things. The only thing I can see from your list is that the deband smooths over the darkest/lightest frames during the fades a little, but that sure beats the blocking CR has going on during those frames.

                    • LotusGG, are you sure you didn’t leave madVR’s debanding on or something? Commie’s encode is already debanded, so debanding again is going to end up destroying detail.

                    • It’s on, but turning it off is not helping. The blur and the reds are annoying me, but it’s not making it unwatchable.

  12. >Edit: Kaylith just dropped the show. In lieu of their subs, I recommend HorribleSubs.

    Why would you recommend Aniplex when the editor and typesetter for Kaylith’s release moved over to Commie?

      • I don’t really see how that answers why you’re still recommending Crunchyroll in place of Kaylith when the editor and typesetter moved over to Commie, but whatever.

        (Or rather, I understand what you mean, since based on the time when you were evaluating Commie’s release, it was all herkz, but I don’t understand why you’re still treating it that way when Jing and conkerer have taken over editing and typesetting on Commie’s release.)

        • I agree, Commie usually releases Shigatsu relatively quickly (only 6-12 hours later than HS), and with a few ex-kaylith staff its probably worth the wait now.

          Of course, some more reviews could obviously be the judge of that, D_S. *wink wink nudge nudge*

        • Okay, I’ll rephrase it then. I don’t recommend disqualified releases, nor do I like to speculate on quality (hence the reviews). Sure Conk and Jing could “keep up” the quality displayed here. Or they could glance at the script and pass it out the door in 5 minutes. HorribleSubs is a known quantity, and a fast one. Considering how flaky Jing has proven himself to be, I’m not gonna risk viewer experience on merely hoping the quality of his character improves.

          If you have faith in him, then by all means go with Commie. But I’m not gonna sell unfounded hopes and dreams to my readers here.

          • I don’t think Jing has been flaky at all. He’s produced good scripts for all of his shows, and the only work of his you’ve disqualified has been Parasyte, which has an excellent CR script to begin with. If you want to rail on him for “fake editing” Parasyte, go ahead, but I don’t see how that reflects poorly on his ability as an editor.

          • In light of the staff changes at Commie, you could also do a rereview. That’s not unheard of and you’ve done it before for significantly more trivial things. That, in my opinion, would probably be the best course of action if you are trying to be an accurate judge of quality for your followers.

            • I’m going to guess Dark_Sage will talk about how a single episode review won’t be a representative of the quality for the whole series because of Jing or something.

              He seems unwilling to evaluate the new Commie releases because of his behavior, but I’m just speculating. I don’t know why D_S thinks that Jing is flaky in the first place.

                • While I wouldn’t say any single person is resposible for Kaylith’s disbanding, if you had to say one person is responsible for the group dying, it’d be Fyurie.

                  • >if you had to say one person is responsible for the group dying, it’d be Fyurie
                    For telling Jing to actually work on a show he(Jing) asked to pick up? Or for being pissed off when he not only didn’t do his job but went and edited the same show for another group instead?

                    • You got it all wrong. Stop trying. Jing didn’t edit it for another group until Fyu announced the project was dropped. He and Fyu clashed a lot though I don’t think that was shown publicly until that one instance of them clashing in staff chan was leaked. Kaylith disbanding had nothing to do with Shigatsu being dropped.

                    • I’m not going to pin any of this on Fyurie. If he doesn’t want to fansub, he shouldn’t; it’s as simple as that. But Kaylith was very much alive until Fyurie decided to retire. And Kaylith, being something of an extension of Fyurie himself, went into retirement with him.

                    • >Jing didn’t edit it for another group until Fyu announced the project was dropped.
                      Boy I wonder why he announced the project was dropped in the first place…
                      >that still wouldn’t make Jing responsible for Kaylith disbanding
                      I guess I shouldn’t have said single–handedly.
                      Jing and Fyurie did it.
                      Let’s pray that caffeine doesn’t met with a similar fate soon, otherwise someone might start pointing fingers.

                    • >Boy I wonder why he announced the project was dropped in the first place…
                      I was Kaylith staff and am now Caffeine staff. Project was dropped because Fyu and Jing clashed. Jing decided to edit for Commie after staff conflict and project was dropped because he still wanted to work on it. Hell, as far as I know, everyone did but fyurie. He might’ve still wanted to work on it if it weren’t for the conflicted interest in staff members. We just didn’t want it at Kaylith because the conflict it created between our group members wasn’t wanted and didn’t contribute to a good working environment for the rest of our shows.

                      I think the entire Shigatsu staff list that made the release stand out is now over at Commie. Editor, tlc, and typesetter. Not trying to argue or anything, so sorry if I come off that way. I just want people to know that Kaylith didn’t disband over Shigatsu. It’s as Ephemore says. Fyurie didn’t want to fansub anymore and he took Kaylith with him. Caffeine staff is entirely Kaylith staff minus maybe one guy who didn’t do anything in the first place (I think? he might’ve been QCing something for a batch or something, actually) and fyurie. We haven’t recruited anyone new as far as I know.

                    • @KoolKidsK
                      Here I go out of my way to imply something I have no actual clue about and what do you do. You calm and collectedly explain what happened instead.
                      Way to ruin any drama this might have caused.
                      I do think it’s a shame that editor, tlc and ts decided to do under commie instead of caffeine. Not only because most people just ignore commie releases but because releasing under commie implies that they have to follow a ridiculous set of rules and standards.

                      But yeah fuck you for not taking the bait.

              • I’m sure Sagey wants to be at least a decent judge of fansub quality. I figure that this approach would allow for him to adequately convey to his readers the varying qualities of the still existing Shigatsu releases (Commie and HS).

            • As has always been my policy with re-reviews, I’ll do them if I fuck something up on my end, or upon request if I have enough free time.

              Unless I somehow stumble my way into wealth, I don’t see the latter happening any time soon.

  13. Hey, there’s a group called ‘Tenkai’ subbing this show. Anyone know if their subs are better or worse then Commie? Thank you!

    • Probably not important since you seem unable to read.

      >- Official subs with TPP as default subtitle track; Commie’s as secondary.

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