Review Queue Spring 2014

~Spring 2014 Edition~

 

Fansub Reviews Left:

[Commie] Captain Earth
[WhyNot] Captain Earth

[HorribleSubs] Gokukoku no Brynhildr

[Commie] Mekakucity Actors
[MekamekaSubs] Mekakucity Actors

Review Order (usually determined by the poll):

  1. [HorribleSubs] Gokukoku no Brynhildr
  2. [Commie] Mekakucity Actors
  3. [MekamekaSubs] Mekakucity Actors

 

Translation Parties Left:

N/A

Review Order (usually determined by the poll):

  1. N/A

 

Out-of-Scope (releases that I will not review for whatever reason):

165 Comments

Dark_Sage says:

And queue is up too. Now you can stop visiting this page, seeing Winter 2014 when it’s nice and springy out, and thinking I slit my wrists due to watching one subtitle release too many.

Solaristics says:

TBD
TBD
TBD

I knew I could count on you.

Ash says:

Solar, you and your buddies need to sub Akuma no Riddle. There aren’t any real groups subbing it and my magic time and space calculator (MTaSC)has determined that Anime-koi should be the one.

Solaristics says:

Ask FFF. That’s their kind of show, and I’m only doing one show since I work M-F.

Ash says:

They said no. Christmas is ruined. I guess I’ll have to watch it with Hadena 2’s subs. Unless. . .

D_S, go around the fansubbing neighborhood with that baseball bat of yours. We all know how fansubbers are afraid of random linguistic violence.

Dark_Sage says:

I dunno, I could just sub it myself. Should be able to come up with a better script than Japan had.

Solaristics says:

Don’t do it! It’ll end up like a certain show…

Dark_Sage says:

What, Naruto Uzumaki Teaches Typing? That’s hardly an apt reference. Hell, it wasn’t even a show; it was a 3DS game. Let’s not let my failure with one localization effort tarnish the prospect of all the good I could do for Lesbians With Knives.

Ash says:

Lesbians with Knives is an awesome name for an all-girl hardcore punk band. Also, Funi just announced that they’re gonna be streaming this one, so at least they’ll probably be better than Hadena 2’s subs. But. . . what if they’re Nourin quality? *shuddershudder*

Ash says:

So, I watched the episode and the subs might’ve been okay had Funi’s editor remembered that you don’t speak in the third person in goddamn English. Why on earth is that so fucking hard to remember?

Dark_Sage says:

I’ll overlook it if it’s an important character trait, but when it hits “well gotta match every tense the Japanese sentence had” mode, no amount of airplane bags could contain Dark_Sage’s commencing vomit.

XiaYixuan says:

Poll when?

Dark_Sage says:

Poll after Preview 2.

anon says:

Please review this release: http://puu.sh/7ZnVZ.jpg

Dark_Sage says:

Well they certainly went a different angle with that show than I was expecting.

Torn says:

TBD is my favorite anime.

Kaitou_Kid says:

I wonder if we’ll get some good fansubs for TBD or will they all be FakeSubs.

o0oo says:

Kaitou pls. Nearly everything has simulcast nowadays.

Kawwmoi says:

considering TBD is already out-of-scope, I don’t think we’ll ever find out.

Anon says:

Please, please, please review Commie’s Daimidaler release ASAP.

ols says:

Was it bad? They already did a v2.

Ash says:

Do the characters in that show even talk? I watched it, but all I remember is the sensation of my eyes bleeding.

Anon says:

Of course. There is plenty of thought-provoking and meaningful dialogue.

http://puu.sh/81g4v

Nerv says:

What is TBD?

Anon says:

Why are you asking me m8?

Anonymous says:

i love you

Torn says:

pls crucify me, d_s

Anon says:

By the way, [SSS] is a group of Anons who said they would sub the series if no one else picked it up. Since HS/shitsubs are alternatives, they’ve dropped it.

Dark_Sage says:

One review down. I think we’re gonna make it this season!

Dark_Sage says:

No. I had [SSS] as a group for Akuma, but Anon said they dropped it, so that’s one less thing for me to worry about.

Ryuk says:

Make that two. Atakushi isn’t doing Blade & Soul. They only did ep 1 because CR was late.

Dark_Sage says:

\o/

Ryuk says:

But then add like 10 more.

Torn says:

This queue looks fun.

vivant says:

FYI, Eveyuu just released No Game, No Life, so now it’s HS vs FFF-Underwater vs Eveyuu.

Dexior92 says:

and what’s with ChihiroDesuYo?

3 Releases and 3 Coops. lol.

anon says:

Captain EarthGoukoku no Brynhildr seems like a fun show.

Anon says:

http://puu.sh/84UKS.jpg

I fucking hate Funimation.

Solaristics says:

Just how many fking ” ” do they need.

Vicki says:

Kaitou is subbing Akuma no Riddle now.

Dark_Sage says:

I’ll be updating this in an hour or so. I assume there have been numerous changes in the past few days since I made it.

VVKing says:

A group named Some Stuffs is doing Jojo: http://www.some-stuffs.com

Dark_Sage says:

Nyaa only? Why would I bother?

Anon says:

>2014
>still using TT

Get with the times, gramps.

Dark_Sage says:

You’re right. Time to move to TPB.

XiaYixuan says:

D_S, why are you messing with my autism? Don’t you know how it hurts to read “goukoku”? You even wrote it correctly (as gokukoku) here: http://www.crymore.net/2014/04/03/spring-2014-anime-previewganza-part-12/

Dark_Sage says:

Fix’d.

Erif says:

no Ping Pong?

Dark_Sage says:

Correct. I only review anime fansubs.

FalseDawn says:

Dark_Sage missing out on AOTY.

Dark_Sage says:

Pretty sure I’m still watching Naruto, so this is patently false.

shcboomer says:

How could we possibly even argue against that?

anon says:

That explains so much

Fuwaa says:

Anime fansubs, anime conventions, phones… anything but Ping Pong, really.

imouto says:

I hope you review MekamekaSubs’ releases of Mekakucity. They’re Nyaa/Tumblr only and claim to be better than Crunchyroll’s speedsubs.

Dark_Sage says:

Tumblr exclusives are well within reviewing scope. Sounds like fun. I’ll have to check it out after I finish fleshing out this article.

Dark_Sage says:

All right, I checked this group out and I don’t see anything about them claiming to be better than CR. So where exactly are you sourcing your claim from?

Ryokun says:

I saw it too. I think they deleted it. According to my memory, it’s something like

“Crunchyroll makes everything shorter to save time”

Ryokun says:

Ah, they changed their layout. I didn’t notice the previous/next page button that’s why I thought they deleted it. My bad.

jabashque says:

Yep, they sure have the most intuitive page layout ever.

Dark_Sage says:

I should have never doubted you, imouto. Beautiful.

Thanks, Jaba-chan.

FalseDawn says:

That sounds like they’re gonna literal EVERY SINGLE LINE. Good luck with that, D_S-kun.

Nova says:

More review, more work to do. You like working, don’t you D_S?
http://underwater.nyaatorrents.org/?view=black-bullet-01-02

Ryuk says:

Episode 3s are airing. Reviews when?

Dark_Sage says:

Good things come to those who wait.

Dark_Sage says:

And not that I’m spoiling the barrage of posts tonight, but there’s gonna be a barrage of posts tonight.

Ryuk says:

This “tonight” thing was like 6 days ago… right?

Dark_Sage says:

I got like two posts done. Or was it three? It was enough.

Assasin_Cross says:

The awesomeness of TBD

Dark_Sage says:

You know it.

AAA says:

Anime-Koi is actually doing Date A Live II. They’re delayed but ep 1 should be out soon.

Dark_Sage says:

Lemme update this when I sober up a bit. Gimme like an hour… ish.

Dark_Sage says:

k, done.

Anime-Koi wasn’t added, cuz I don’t work off speculation (I’m sure it’s planned, but I’ve seen enough projects get canceled before the first release that I’m not putting any money on it).

shcboomer says:

Looks about right to me.

AAA says:

It’s not speculation, last I heard was Ep 1 is at QC and they started working on Ep2

Dark_Sage says:

In fansubbing nothing is confirmed till release. It’s not uncommon for groups to sit on complete episodes and never put them out to the public.

TouToTheHouYo says:

Speaking of, Hyobu friggin’ when?

no_name_needed says:

Underwater is also doing Black Bullet. [More stuff for you to do D_S!]

Period says:

Yeah, you missed Underwaters’ release D_S.

Dark_Sage says:

I’ll update the queue after this upcoming post.

Dark_Sage says:

Well apparently my seedbox decided to shit out so I can’t get the images from the vids I need for the post.

Oh well, queue updated anyway.

raest says:

Some new group called Chyuu is doing M3 and Blade and Soul. Simulcast edits but they’ve complained at least once about how bad Blade’s script was and also said that M3 had a terrible script too so I’m assuming they’re probably different enough to not receive the failsub designation.

Dark_Sage says:

Check out the recently updated out-of-scope section. Not that I wanna spoil tonight’s fun…

Hairy says:

>so I’m assuming they’re probably different enough to not receive the failsub designation.

You assume wrong.

raest says:

Yeh well I mean I wasn’t going to waste time watching shit shows to find out. Assuming wrong shit is the cool thing to do anyway.

Period says:

By the time I know what subs I should be using the season will be over, D_S.

Dark_Sage says:

:x

shcboomer says:

Oh no, you’ll have to put effort into finding the right subs.

Dark_Sage says:

Hmm, I never considered the true impact of my laziness. Okay, 12 reviews tonight~

Anonymous says:

I get around this problem by not watching anything until its subs have been reviewed by D_S.

Rin says:

Poor kid, can’t even decide for himself

btw. i get around the problem by watching raws :>

Ryuk says:

It means 5 weeks in Dark_Sagian English.

Period says:

See, you understand.

I’m kidding of course, I already figured out what subs I prefer, I just enjoy reading sub reviews.

shcboomer says:

Thought so, I agree with you in that regard.

Kamica says:

Surprising that only two Commie releases this season got disqualified.

Xythar says:

Kind of a pointless distinction when 90% of the reviews will get dropped anyway.

Hairy says:

Two of the disqualified releases already have A+ status on Nyaa. Why is Nyaa so eager to slap A+ on releases that are barely any different to what you can get from HS?

Xythar says:

Because we pick the best release without enforcing an arbitrary standard of how much the script has to be edited. Even if a group copy and pastes CR’s script with zero changes, simply adding songs, typesetting, proper timing and a better encode is enough to make theirs a better release.

Hairy says:

I just find it strange that out of all the shows and all the releases this season, you choose to give A+ to those that have had the least amount of effort put into them first.

I mean, just going by what’s on Sage’s list, if you don’t care about changes to the CR script, why hasn’t Flax’s Baby Steps been given blue? Why hasn’t one of Anime-Koi/Chihiro been given A+ for Soredemo/Hitsugi? They’re the only groups doing those shows, and if all they’ve done is add songs, typesetting, proper timing and a better encode, then surely they qualify for A+, right?

As an aside, could you tell me why DDY’s Gokukoku no Brynhildr release was chosen over Mezashite’s? I went with Mezashite, so I’d like to know why I was wrong and if I should change.

Xythar says:

Why is that strange to you? They’re the easiest ones to decide. For example, I watched Chyuu’s Blade & Soul, deemed it acceptable, and nobody else is subbing it. Done.

Baby Steps is being reviewed, but I’m pretty sure Flax will get it. I haven’t looked at it myself because I don’t really care about most sports anime.

I wasn’t too impressed with any of the options available for Soredemo when I looked at episode 1, and nobody’s reviewed Chaika yet. I’ll probably get to it later.

I thought CR/DDY’s script was on the whole better than Mezashite’s for Brynhildr in the episodes I checked (1 and parts of 2/3), which was the consensus of the other staff who had checked them out as well. The multiplication/times table scene in episode 1 stood out to me in particular as being much better executed in CR’s translation. Of course, that’s just my opinion, so feel free to compare them yourself and make your own decision.

Hairy says:

>Why is that strange to you?

Because it is strange that the releases with very little work put into them are awarded A+ before releases that have been originally translated or significantly edited.

And wouldn’t it be more helpful if you chose the best release for a show when there were several competing releases, rather than giving A+ to one when it’s the sole release for a show?

>The multiplication/times table scene in episode 1 stood out to me in particular as being much better executed in CR’s translation

CR’s handing of that definitely comes across better (multiplication tables/I don’t sit at them very often), but if we are to believe Mezashite’s explanation for why they had “I’m not a fan of how they taste”, then their rendering of it would seem to be more accurate.

Xythar says:

Literal accuracy doesn’t really matter if the lines make no sense. This was definitely a case where the execution is more important than the contents.

Low-hanging fruit always gets picked first. It’s a fact of life. The other ones will be decided if and when people have time to review them. In any case, I generally look only at the finished product and try to avoid making assumptions about how much or how little work was put into a release.

Etoce says:

I was the one who argued for the literal treatment of that scene in Mezashite’s release. Akatsukin had actually edited in a “localized” version along the lines of CR’s before I removed it. Having dealt with my fair share of people criticizing my translations for not being 100% “literal”, I hate to have to defend the other side, but let me explain my reasoning.

Regardless of the subtitles’ specific treatment of that scene, as long as they aren’t completely off, the viewer will understand that he’s quizzing her about basic times tables stuff, and she’s answering nonsensically by interpreting his questions as things that sound similar in Japanese. With that in mind, the question becomes “Do we make the scene read more smoothly (i.e. have the lines ‘make sense’) or do we provide more information (e.g. to make it easier for a weeaboo to “understand” the pun by looking things up) at the expense of smoothness?” I’m sure lots of people have their own definitive answers to that, but I don’t think it’s cut and dry.

That said, I probably would’ve done it in a non-literal, sense-making way if we had fitting answers for all of his questions (2*2, 8*2, 8*8 included). But while “I don’t sit at them very often” is very nice and fitting, it’s much harder to find ones that make sense for the rest. One of my biggest pet peeves in fansubs is when a pun is translated into an English pun that’s such a stretch that it’s not immediately apparent that the translator meant to make a pun, leading to confusion. I don’t remember exactly what CR did for the numeric ones, so they very well may have done it nicely, but I decided not to translate the puns because of the risk that it would be hard to discern what the pun was.

I took a look at CR’s episode 3 script myself and I have to admit that it was very good. I still think Mezashite’s is better, but that’s probably because I take any flaws with CR’s script to be a sign that they suck, while I can come up with endless excuses to explain away any flaws in my script.

cheshyre says:

This brings us to the fundamental question at hand: Is effort the sole factor in determining the quality of a release?
For example, someone as retarded as you could probably work their heart out on a script and it would still be shit. The same goes for a poorly executed original TL. If a CR script is properly edited and then checked for translation errors, the result can easily be better than some TL by some weeaboo who sits in his basement and spends every day trying to become Japanese.
Another concept you seem to be unfamiliar with is editing. I don’t know how much Japanese you know, but Japanese puns translated directly into English don’t work. It is the TL/editor’s job to find a way to introduce similar humor into the English script. Simply TLing it and leaving TL notes is not sufficient. It is not entertaining and also not what the writers intended.

Hairy says:

>For example, someone as retarded as you could probably work their heart out on a script and it would still be shit.

I’m sure I could churn out a CR edit as good as some of the others I’ve seen out there. I never said your Gokukoku no Brynhildr shouldn’t have been given A+, by the way. I was just asking for a reason as to why it was, and I was discussing one of the points made by Xythar. Your release may very well be better than theirs, and that was why I asked.

>If a CR script is properly edited and then checked for translation errors, the result can easily be better than some TL by some weeaboo who sits in his basement and spends every day trying to become Japanese.

When did I argue to the contrary? I never said that a properly edited and TLCed script couldn’t be better than an original translation. Some CR edits are better, some original TLs are. In this case, I was merely asking why the minimal CR edit was chosen over the other group’s release, which happened to be an original TL.

>Another concept you seem to be unfamiliar with is editing

Apparently DDY’s editor for Brynhildr is also unfamiliar with that concept.

cheshyre says:

You should probably diff check the scripts before assuming that this was DQed as a fakesub. Just a thought.

XiaYixuan says:

Can you make a software that automatically checks if a sub would be DQ’d? It’d make stuff easier.

cheshyre says:

Ask D_S. I don’t know what his standards are.

Fuwaa says:

>deemed it acceptable

The secret behind A+ scores on Nyaa: The “A+” stands for “acceptable or better”. Obviously they just pick the first group that doesn’t make them tear their eyes out and give it A+.

For the purposes of Nyaa users, that’s a perfectly acceptable method, since it takes into account speed as well as quality. The best group might not be chosen, but the one chosen will likely be good enough for people grabbing torrents there.

I doubt more than a handful of users on Nyaa would notice or care that the subs they’re watching are unedited HS scripts with OP lyrics and a different font.

Solaristics says:

Cause none of the Soredemo releases were that great. I screwed up plenty on Soredemo with poor word choicing and changing stuff that doesn’t need to be changed. Chihiro didn’t have that many changes either, and they had some errors as well. Meaning, none of them gets it.

Can’t say much for Brynhildr since I watch CR ver.

Hairy says:

But it doesn’t matter to Nyaa if very little was changed and some errors were introduced, does it?

The fact that so many Commie releases that could be explained in exactly the same way have been given A+ proves it.

I’ll give them some credit this season, though. Whilst I am questioning it, I never expected DDY, or Chihiro for that matter, to ever be given A+ on Nyaa. So at least they don’t seem to be as biased this season. They’re still inconsistent, though.

aVF says:

+ If you think you can describe the multiplication table in this way (http://i.imgur.com/eYgvh7k.png?1) (Mezashite’s line) then you’re wrong.

Enz says:

Does anybody know who Chyuu actually are? My first thought was that they’re another group of Commie’s and that Xythar is somehow part of them, but I’m open to suggestions.

Xythar says:

Yeah, because I wouldn’t possibly look out for anyone but my buddies, huh?

Please go on. I’m fascinated to see what other tales you can spin from your boundless ignorance.

Enz says:

You’re living in Sage’s basement, aren’t you?

Xythar says:

A good start. Keep it up!

jabashque says:

You work at a call center!

cheshyre says:

How about you visit their IRC and see? You might be surprised to see some familiar people in there.

Fuwaa says:

It would be nice of Dark_Sage to put up maybe a basic letter grade for the releases he’s watched at least. As a preview for the reviews.

elenrod says:

Eh, I’d rather he preview the insults. I’m waiting for his next elegant turn of phrase to plagiarise for my essay-checking.

shizurin says:

I would like to start watching Black Bullet but with so many groups doing it don’t really know who to pick. When is that getting reviewed and given A+?

Fyurie says:

So how about those real reviews? Getting bored of skimming fakesub posts, need some real entertainment!

Solaristics says:

^. Get onto the reviews. Mahouka especially.

XiaYixuan says:

I’m looking forward to the summer season.

Dark_Sage says:

Writing me off like a tax deduction ;_;

Dark_Sage says:

So how many reviews do I need to get out tonight for you to regain your trust in my saginess?

Period says:

All the DDY, Doki, and Chihiro releases. Commie releases if you want to go the extra mile!

Dark_Sage says:

Oh, I see your game!

Well I’m working on shit, but I’m keeping it on the hush-hush. Shit’s coming tonight, come hell or high water. But not come both; I ain’t a miracle worker.

Solaristics says:

Chyuu doing M3 btw.

XiaYixuan says:

No Hatsuyuki for Date A Live II?

Kamica says:

When are the rest of the No Game No Life reviews coming?

Kamica says:

Please do the exact same episode for Underwater and EveTaku’s reviews. It’ll likely be close contest between these two groups so i’d love to see some direct comparisons.

XiaYixuan says:

Thanks for the irregular at magic high school review — now I know what to learn English from. {insert here the link to the review} Also, when will u finally add Hatsuyuki’s DAL II?

Period says:

Little do we know D_S has 20+ reviews finished and plans to release them in one huge wave!

Kamica says:

Halfway through Spring and yet there’s only been 4 fansub reviews and 1 TL party. Can’t get away from work, Dark_Sage?

Jark says:

He probably can’t get away from the bottle of jack.

Solaristics says:

He still has to update his Queue too… which he won’t get to, right, Dark_Sage? Stop drinking every night.

Dark_Sage says:

Updated.

Dark_Sage says:

Bingo. Jark was on-target too.

Period says:

It seems Commie and Mirlo are also subbing Mekakucity Actors. Are they not on the list because you missed them, or because they are fakesubs?

Dark_Sage says:

It’s mostly that I just haven’t even looked at who’s subbing it. Hell, I haven’t even watched the first ep.

I should get on that…

Solaristics says:

You should get on a lot of things, but you know…

Dark_Sage says:

Yeah, but condoms can get expensive.

Solaristics says:

Reviews when. Do some more Loli Bullet reviews.

Dark_Sage says:

Mahouka dropped because it’s so bad my body can’t handle thinking about the dialogue. Doki’s release (before I canceled the review) was around an F, and last I checked, the person responsible for that failure was still on that show. So I’m gonna say it’s still a bad choice.

FBI’s hasn’t had any significant issues that I feel should turn you off from their subs, so if you’re still trying to decide, go with FBI’s release.

k says:

ty for the ban m8. nice bias m8. nice comment censoring m8.

Dark_Sage says:

If you want to play, then entertain me a bit better than you have been. If having a personality is too much for you, then go back to reddit. This playground ain’t free.

Solaristics says:

Wait, what? What happened.

Dark_Sage says:

No drama, unfortunately. He used to go by Zeus-kun, then after I banned him went by god. You might remember him, but with bait as dull as this, there’s no reason to have him wasting precious kilobytes of my site’s storage:

http://www.crymore.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/boring.jpg

shcboomer says:

So basically troll bait…

Dylan says:

That was the same guy? Makes sense, each time he changed his name he posted less and less

Hairy says:

Only three shows remain. C’mon, D_S, you can do it.

Dark_Sage says:

I started Brynhildr last night. Should finish both reviews this night.

Dark_Sage says:

*a night

Dylan says:

Classy™

Enz says:

Whooaa, look at all those summer shows D_S can delay reviewing! *.*

:*

Dark_Sage says:

*:

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