Fansub Review: [Shini-subs] Nisemonogatari (Episode 05)

B-Tier, Fansub Review — By on February 13, 2012 5:36 am

This post was written by Dark_Sage. He is Dark_Sage.

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And the final Nise contender. How does it stack up against CMS/Commie?

Release format: MKV (309 MB, 10-bit), MKV (355 MB, 8-bit), LQ MKV (268 MB, 8-bit)

Japanesiness: Honorifics. “Onii-chan”, “Ojou-san” used.

Scene bleeds? Yes. Many.

Group website: http://shini-subs.com/

8thsin’s translation critique: http://8ths.in/winter-2012-anime-subtitle-comparison/#Nisemonogatari

Ji-hi’s screenshot comparisons: N/A

 

Karaoke.

I posted Youtube videos of the other groups’ karaoke. Unfortunately, Sony hates it when people advertise their music for them, so they banned my account. No more Youtube for me. So I’ll just have to go back to my “jpeg and comment” routine.

Opening. I like the idea (karaoke backed with the orange/red/yellow/green colors used in the OP), but I wasn’t — what’s the word? — impressed? Yeah, that’s it.

Ending. This lagged. I’m rocking an OC’d i5 with a 6950 and 12 gigs of RAM. CCCP default settings. If it lagged for me, it’s probably gonna lag for a lot of people. As for the karaoke itself (during the rare times when it I could go through a scene without it stuttering like a speech impediment), I loved the font choice. I would have to question why the colors didn’t change per the scenes, though. Of course, maybe I’d like it better if I could watch it.

 

Typesetting.

I was informed I would not like this typeset. I was informed correctly. Goddamn. The Japanese text isn’t so sacred that you need to sacrifice visual quality.

Is it possible to {blur1000} something?

And that was the typesetting.

 

Script.

 

What is this? Please try to make the jokes work. This whole platinum scene (it goes on for a number of lines) just doesn’t work. Gibberish is not funny.

A space after the closing quotation mark on “it is good”? Thought I wouldn’t notice, did ya? Too bad. I notice everything. And when I don’t notice it, Xythar does. So I’m good on all accounts.

wanted -> want. Sure, he wanted money, but he still wants money. He also keeps the present tense going with the line that immediately follows this one: “What do you want?”

HNGH!

Also,

met -> me

Is it really so hard to split this shit up so it doesn’t extend across the screen? This happens more than once.

What the fuck did I just read? How do you lose an outcome?

 

Watchability: Quite watchable.

Overall grade: B+

My girlfriend (typesetter on this release) said I wasn’t getting laid next weekend if I didn’t give this release a super high grade. Good weekend to hang with the bros I guess.

For typesetting, go with Commie. For karaoke, go with CMS. For script, I’d also say go with CMS. Overall… looks like I’m gonna recommend CMS for Nise.

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37 Comments

lygerzero0zero says:

It’s good to know you put the legitimacy of your reviews before your love life.

AzureHakua says:

>This lagged. I’m rocking an OC’d i5 with a 6950 and 12 gigs of RAM.

o_o

Well, I certainly don’t have those stats, but I’m not lagging.

lygerzero0zero says:

What sub renderer are you using? If D_S is on CCCP defaults that could explain the difference.

AzureHakua says:

Right now I’m on MPC-HC + LAV FIlters + xy-vsfilter + madvr; however, I was using the default CCCP for episodes 1-4.

tormaid says:

>XY-Vsfilter

That’ll do it. ;D

Dark_Sage says:

Interesting. The reason I never changed my filters even after tp7’s post is that I figured the majority of viewers aren’t the enthusiast types who really keep up on all this filter stuff. Indeed, the refrain so far from groups has been “get CCCP to watch our subs.” So I’m assuming this is what the average viewer should see. This is the only Kara on this computer that has lagged, so I wonder what exactly happened here.

RANDOm says:

I just use K lite Mega pack (google it – its a codec pack like cccp but with bi weekly updates). Nice thing about it is that it fixes broken codecs.

coolguy says:

Well, VLC works like a charm on measly c2d. Blame CCCP.

coolerguy says:

Die in a fire.

Calyrica says:

The kara is simply k0t(c). No reason for any lag whatsoever, especially since the only difference between this ep and previous eps is the font, and not one person has complained about the previous eps, yet this isn’t the first time someone has bitched about the ED.

uSalt2 says:

I think it’s the font. VSFilter seems to be inefficient at changing colors, and combined with the complex font, it causes lag. (based from http://code.google.com/p/xy-vsfilter/issues/detail?id=69 )

jdp says:

>looks like I’m gonna recommend CMS for Nise.

What are you smoking and where can I get some?

Dark_Sage says:

I value script quality over typesetting. Karaoke makes my case more presentable. You put a newfag editor on Nise. What the hell did you expect?

Xythar says:

“And when I don’t notice it, Xythar does.”

Only when you’re reviewing other groups’ subs for Another, heh.

Sup says:

I saw one of your earlier reviews and you gave Commie an A- for Nisemono, but this one has a B+. Does that mean Commie’s overall score went down?

Dark_Sage says:

This is a review for the Shini-subs release. Commie still has an A-.

random says:

Conspiracy against Commie, etc.

herkz says:

Someone should teach your girlfriend how to typeset.

Because there’s not much point in doing a show like this if you can’t typeset.

You know what I mean?

herkz says:

Also,

>Is it possible to {blur1000} something?

Yes, but it crashes VSFilter when you seek to the line is question… don’t ask me how I know this.

Sutai says:

Your mother should teach you how to be polite.

herkz says:

Nah, it’s easier this way.

RandomHouse says:

Yo dark. if you wanna post the karaoke videos on YT, why not try uploading without the sound? Doesn’t it usually get removed cuz of the sound?

Dark_Sage says:

That’s a good idea. I had an Infinite Stratos video taken down for the visuals, but I think the karaoke would obscure it from YouTube’s filter. Thanks for the suggestion.

Sutai says:

Just use vimeo~

lygerzero0zero says:

Have you tried uploading as unlisted? You can still embed, but the video won’t show up on search results or your channel page.

Calyrica says:

“The Japanese text isn’t so sacred that you need to sacrifice visual quality.”

It’s called a typesetting convention. Editing isn’t the only thing that has conventions, you know. We use honorifics. We use Eastern name order. We don’t cover up the Japanese when typesetting. That’s just how we do things.

Sutai says:

But but but… that convention makes things uglier~

Xythar says:

They all do, but people still seem to like that stuff for some reason.

Sutai says:

Cuz “Japanese is a sacred language and blah blah don’t cover it I want to see it even if I can’t read it!”

ghjghj says:

your conventions are bad

idiffer says:

oh oversubbing…stupidity masked with attitude. lol, internet. i’m actually surprised (with fansubs constantly spewing out stupid trends for trends’ sake) that someone hasn’t tried to resub, for example the Evangelion tv series or flcl or smth.

Xythar says:

That’s a good idea, we should totally do that sometime.

Detective says:

Your level of butthurt is palpable.

Subbing with honorifics has been around since the dawn of fansubbing.

Go back to /a/ and make another 8bit v 10bit thread please.

Detective says:

Wait, what?

idiffer says:

yes, what? good question. why would i be butthurt? annoyed and confused, yes.

Progeusz says:

I’m watching NGE right now and all subs are shit. Not mentioning typesetting which would probably look better if it didn’t exist at all. Seriously, current fansubbing is ages ahead of what we had some years ago. It would be really nice if decent groups picked up some old series and did them justice, instead of editing CR’s script for the Xth time.
At least dubbing is outstanding so I only have to pay attention to subs when Rei speaks – she’s a little too quiet.

idiffer says:

brofist. yeah, i vote for [gg] personally. but i will be also ecstatic if hadena did it…

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